wat's ur fav multi-effect so far?
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Indigo_blues
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fairly new to electric guitars here.. i've been pretty happy with my zoom g2.1u.. recently was watching a guitar instructional dvd and the instructor was playing a strat thru a fender amp.. was comparing the sound of the g2.1u's fender twin reverb amp sim to that and it comes pretty close by gawd! :lol:
thor666
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I was going to avoid replying, but I share the same sentiments as ShredCow. Just to clarify - you got to try out an actual Twin Reverb yourself. a Zoom G2.1 alone cannot guarantee you a lot of aspects of a Twin Reverb amp, such as the headroom, dynamics or the clean chimey qualities.
If you want to try out a Twin Reverb yourself, I know of a jamming studio that has one. Not advertising for them, so PM me instead if you're interested to know.
If you want to try out a Twin Reverb yourself, I know of a jamming studio that has one. Not advertising for them, so PM me instead if you're interested to know.
jeremyrozario
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haha, anti-digitalS, for me i find that multi-fxes give me the versatility and gain that "I" need, well its a matter of opinion, and thats mine
anw when using a multi-fx, i wouldn't claim to have some1 elses tone, but i would instead be tweaking out "MY" kind of tone
also, when a modeller says its based on a certain amp, it doesn't have to sound like that amp, but if its nice....
well hope people get my point, not blasting any1, but i have to defend the poor that can't afford individual analog devices, and have to resort to multi-fxes
cheers
(ps, if i sound kl, sorry)
anw when using a multi-fx, i wouldn't claim to have some1 elses tone, but i would instead be tweaking out "MY" kind of tone
also, when a modeller says its based on a certain amp, it doesn't have to sound like that amp, but if its nice....
well hope people get my point, not blasting any1, but i have to defend the poor that can't afford individual analog devices, and have to resort to multi-fxes
cheers
(ps, if i sound kl, sorry)
thor666
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again, not being anti-digital - i have a DD3 in my setup anyway.Was going to go into a rant on speakers and cabs, but nah.
Just before judging the modellers with the actual things, try the actual things out. So many people have been deluded into thinking modellers are exact replacements - they aren't.
It's fustrating for an amp tech to hear that a Mesa/Marshall/Fender is good because a particular modeller sounds nice - I know of an amp tech that does and I feel for him too.
Multieffects are good and modelling is too. Just be realistic about what your equipment does I guess. No one should need to spend 10K to start playing guitar.
Indigo_blues
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ShredCow said:
no offense.. but have u played on a real twin reverb? Well, i think the zoom is good enuff for beginners. When i'm better i'll move on to something better. Everyone starts from somewhere don't they? :wink:
I have. And I disliked it.
Does that in any sense help you?
Let me explain, on top of what thor has said.
In the first place, you heard the twin thru a recording.
That means, tone has been coloured by recording equipment. Coloured by the mastering/mixing/processing. Coloured by the compression & conversion to a digital/analog format. Coloured by your home speakers.
Then you compared your g2.1u to that flawed tone. If your g2.1u running thru 12" or 10" inch speakers? Or is running thru an amp? Whcih would more colouring on top of your g2.1u's module.
I don't need to even actually have heard a real twin reverb to comment that what you have heard probably isn't the real deal.
Does that in any sense help you?
Let me explain, on top of what thor has said.
In the first place, you heard the twin thru a recording.
That means, tone has been coloured by recording equipment. Coloured by the mastering/mixing/processing. Coloured by the compression & conversion to a digital/analog format. Coloured by your home speakers.
Then you compared your g2.1u to that flawed tone. If your g2.1u running thru 12" or 10" inch speakers? Or is running thru an amp? Whcih would more colouring on top of your g2.1u's module.
I don't need to even actually have heard a real twin reverb to comment that what you have heard probably isn't the real deal.
Indigo_blues said:
Well you have edited your post.
I guess its just me too. Getting a bit tired and old liao. Should stop hogging the forum and turning into another big D.
Everyone starts from somewhere, and its thru forums like this they learn too. I had my start on Jemsite. Learning to string a floyd myself in 5 hours the first time.
Indigo_blues
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shredcow: i think u may be tired like u say. Maybe time to take a break. Let the ego cool down abit. cheers. :wink:
p.s. if u look thru my other posts, u will know that i'm not that new to all these audio stuff, just that i picked up e. guitar recently. not wanting to pick a fight here but please be more sensitive with your posts. thanks.
p.s. if u look thru my other posts, u will know that i'm not that new to all these audio stuff, just that i picked up e. guitar recently. not wanting to pick a fight here but please be more sensitive with your posts. thanks.
Indigo_blues
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MrE: I'm not afraid to admit i like a $200 digital effect and am a beginner at e guitar. Does this show i have a big ego? Chill out dude.
hey shredcow, appreciate your reply. maybe we can meet up some day and u can teach me some stuff. cheers
hey shredcow, appreciate your reply. maybe we can meet up some day and u can teach me some stuff. cheers
theblueark
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RazrAsh said:
I can, and would love to take up the challenge. It will be a big expensive project though.
To me, modellers are pretty useful in a recording situation....but when it comes to the crunch, nothing beats the real deal.
Place the real tube head and the multi efx drive that is simulating it side by side, both thru 4x12s. Crank it up, sustain a note or cut the guitar's volume....those nuances of your playing can't be simulated simply by signal in and signal out of the little floorbox!
Ever heard a note seems to "bloom" from those tube amps? Guitarists owe it to themselves to try out some real amps.
Whichever route you choose, it's all based on what you need/do. :roll:
Place the real tube head and the multi efx drive that is simulating it side by side, both thru 4x12s. Crank it up, sustain a note or cut the guitar's volume....those nuances of your playing can't be simulated simply by signal in and signal out of the little floorbox!
Ever heard a note seems to "bloom" from those tube amps? Guitarists owe it to themselves to try out some real amps.
Whichever route you choose, it's all based on what you need/do. :roll:
theblueark
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Depends on the modeler and the amp and if they like each other. If the good amp hates the modeler then it will sound worse than the crap amp that loves it.
