USB Audio Interface with a decent keyboard amp modeling
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You can try the very good sounding Native Instrument Audio Kontrol 1 and get one of the great NI instrument free.
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=audiokontrol1
NI Audio Kontrol 1 is sold in Resolution
Cheez
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Can you please elaborate on "keyboard amp modelling"? As far as I know, it doesn't exist. Keyboards are different from guitars. Amps don't make a difference. The only "amp" you may be talking about is the Leslie speakers of the Hammond B3 - which is really a rotational speaker cabinet. Any sound modules/library that has the B3 sound will include the Leslie programmed via mod wheel control. It doesn't sit in the audio interface.
z_z
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I am mainly looking for a portable interface, where I can activate the amp modelling with a touch of the button, in place of a sound library /music software and hardware.
Most of the interfaces seem to have some form of guitar amps mod in place. The "effects" isn't right as compared to a full spectrum amp from peavey, roland etc.
It's just a good to have feature for me though, but if any of those thingamajigs have a leslie amp mod, I will take it haha.
Most of the interfaces seem to have some form of guitar amps mod in place. The "effects" isn't right as compared to a full spectrum amp from peavey, roland etc.
It's just a good to have feature for me though, but if any of those thingamajigs have a leslie amp mod, I will take it haha.
Cheez
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As I said, keyboards are not the same as guitars. So there's no keyboard amp modelling. The amps for keyboards are mainly for amplification but does little to give it a characteristic sound, like you would find in guitar amps. And because keyboard output are line, we would always try to run it by line instead of mic unless in a live situation. The way is to go through monitor speakers, without the need of amps. That will give the clearest definition for keyboards.
I'm still not clear on what you mean by "in place of a sound library/music software and hardware". You can't replace a sound source. The sound source (in the form of hardware or software) is necessary to produce a sound in a keyboard. Otherwise, you'll get no sound. Unless, of course, it's an acoustic instrument (eg piano).
I'm still not clear on what you mean by "in place of a sound library/music software and hardware". You can't replace a sound source. The sound source (in the form of hardware or software) is necessary to produce a sound in a keyboard. Otherwise, you'll get no sound. Unless, of course, it's an acoustic instrument (eg piano).
z_z
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Yeah I get what you are saying.
I am still runnning the source (from either my synth or laptop) through line but I need to record using a "live" effect. Hence, the amp mod. Lugging a amp/speaker + mic around is out of the question. I need it in a small package, hence the audio interface.
I am still runnning the source (from either my synth or laptop) through line but I need to record using a "live" effect. Hence, the amp mod. Lugging a amp/speaker + mic around is out of the question. I need it in a small package, hence the audio interface.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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usually audio interface is just to provide a transition/communication path from our gear signal to computer for software processing, if theres any form of keyboard amp simulation, its thru software and not from the audio interface.(Anyone, do correct me if iam wrong)
for the amp simulation, if theres no keyboard amp simulation, how bout thru guitar amp simulation? Anyway, for free geetar vst that have amp simulation(with cab simulation as well), heres one
for the amp simulation, if theres no keyboard amp simulation, how bout thru guitar amp simulation? Anyway, for free geetar vst that have amp simulation(with cab simulation as well), heres one
Cheez
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OK. I see what you are trying to achieve. Correct me if I'm wrong. Even in live situations, recording would still be achieved through the mixer, which comes directly out of the instruments/guitar amps. I don't think people would try to record directly out of the main speakers.
And if you want to "decrease" the definition to simulate a live effect, there are several ways around it, I think. Most of it would be during the post-recording phase, after you've already got all your materials recorded. You can add plugins. Most, if not all the amp simulation plugins, are for guitars and basses. You'll never find any for keyboards for the reason I gave above. You can try to put your keyboard recording through a guitar amp simulation plugin. But I don't think that will actually create a "live" effect - it will just make the keyboard sound bad. And keyboardists will NOT like it if you change their sound too drastically. We choose our equipment carefully - hence why there are people who swear only by Korg, or Nord, or Roland, or Yamaha, or various softsynths. We want the sound to be exactly like it.
The other is to add a general reverb to the mix, giving the effect that you're recording in a large hall. I would be careful of this though - too much and you get a mess.
The other way is to introduce noise - background noise. I've got a collection of ambient noises including basic ambient large concert hall "empty" sound to noises made by people in a concert - from coughing to cheering/clapping to noises made by concert musicians (page flipping, chairs shuffling etc). I don't think we should overuse these, though.
Other than these, this will be a question for recording engineers to answer.
And if you want to "decrease" the definition to simulate a live effect, there are several ways around it, I think. Most of it would be during the post-recording phase, after you've already got all your materials recorded. You can add plugins. Most, if not all the amp simulation plugins, are for guitars and basses. You'll never find any for keyboards for the reason I gave above. You can try to put your keyboard recording through a guitar amp simulation plugin. But I don't think that will actually create a "live" effect - it will just make the keyboard sound bad. And keyboardists will NOT like it if you change their sound too drastically. We choose our equipment carefully - hence why there are people who swear only by Korg, or Nord, or Roland, or Yamaha, or various softsynths. We want the sound to be exactly like it.
The other is to add a general reverb to the mix, giving the effect that you're recording in a large hall. I would be careful of this though - too much and you get a mess.
The other way is to introduce noise - background noise. I've got a collection of ambient noises including basic ambient large concert hall "empty" sound to noises made by people in a concert - from coughing to cheering/clapping to noises made by concert musicians (page flipping, chairs shuffling etc). I don't think we should overuse these, though.
Other than these, this will be a question for recording engineers to answer.
