Ultrasound @ The Arts House Chamber 13 July 12noon to 10.30pm
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the reason why you should pay for unsold tickets is because u didnt play your part unlike all the 21 bands who brought down 25 guest to make the gig successful. Lets be frank, bands wont try as hard or bother if they had nothing to lose. I bet tmr if i make this a no selling ticket gig. It will be full. Why? Free jamming... Yes bands always want everything to be fair to them and i do agree but there is a limit. Somethings can be changed and some cant.
As a final statement to close all this.
I am happy to change the minimum to 20 so more of my dear friends can play for this one gig to test out if the current bands are different from the past.
19th April-460 tickets were sold
1st june- 475 tickets were sold
Lets see how bands do this time with a smaller minimum.
As for equipment i will post it up on wednesday when i receive the list.
Another addition, I will be hiring a sound tech through out future gigs.
Please pm or anything if u think i can improve it in any other way.
As a final statement to close all this.
I am happy to change the minimum to 20 so more of my dear friends can play for this one gig to test out if the current bands are different from the past.
19th April-460 tickets were sold
1st june- 475 tickets were sold
Lets see how bands do this time with a smaller minimum.
As for equipment i will post it up on wednesday when i receive the list.
Another addition, I will be hiring a sound tech through out future gigs.
Please pm or anything if u think i can improve it in any other way.
BleedsNoMore
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just a word to the organizer, i hope u'r not demoralised by what people are saying, instead u shud take it as a word of advice and amend ur ways.. cheers! though i tink ticket sales is bullshit.. but nevertheless, ill try to comprehend.. =) gdluck in ur gig..
damagedone
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yea..and i hope theres some lightings going on cause 'peep show' perform at chamber have some lighting effect and we perform with just the normal lights..
BleedsNoMore
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WAHHH!!!!!! now that's just too much to ask for isn't it? u want to showcase ur music or the shirt that u wear? u want pyrotechnics? hahahahaha!!!
dude huh? Are you guyrence in another account?
damagedone
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haha..im me on my own account..
if cant get some lighting its ok.
no need for someone to add on
and i also heard that 1st june gig there gonna be a reviews..
so what izit?
if cant get some lighting its ok.
no need for someone to add on
and i also heard that 1st june gig there gonna be a reviews..
so what izit?
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hey there,Ryan,from local band,local scene.
1)selling is not a problem for most bands out here.
this is a way to promote our bands.and in a way of doing this,the organizer is helping us,bands,too,promoting both parties.
2) tix sold is $12.we may be good and worth to watch.for 30 mins set.
but we are tertiary students.some of us come from poor background.
most of our friends can't afford that much.pity them.lets think orite.
if we use the phrase " please come.if u dont buy my balance tix i cant play
and its ONLY $12." they will of course get a lil disappointed "are u forcing
me if i do not want to come?".this is even if we're good.and other point
"hey sorry dude,u are my friend,and the other band are my friends too,they approach me first,bought from them already".SAD right?
3) Nick " we cant afford having an empty gig while you're playing:???: "
true.nobody wants an empty gig.but we only have sold 10/30 tix.
and pay the rest of the amount of 12x20=$240.
from our own pocket money,are we rich?NO.
If we're a new band,we really know we are good and ready to perform at
gigs,where's the REAL platform for us to perform if we have not showcase
what we are made of?.Like this case,we are good,most of our friends have
NOT HEARD US PLAY,never ever perform.NEVER.we want to perform.
but how to promote like this kind of PAY BALANCED TIX event if
our friends have not heard us yet?we cant possibly managed
to sell all the tix.and have to pay balance?
if that 10 sold tix buyer came and see us perform.the rest of the paid 20
tix,goes to organizers pocket!.no friends,no audience of ours.
Nick "most bands have no problem in selling all of my tix.is not fair to them
if other bands can't manage to sell all the tix and let them play for -
FREE JAMMING."
Hello,bro,free jamming.then we pay you balance help sell some tix.what?
FREE JAMMING?.bet your braces gone haywire.
They have no problems.why? u layout the reasons. maybe most of them
have money to pay balance.and perform at previous gigs.when they are
fresh bands.friends heard,promote them to the other friends.
Correct?.then financially down bands>till have NO NEED PAY BALANCE
TIX,then perform?.by when?.ur an organizer in this small music scene.
you expect support,where's ours?.we help u sell tix already and u want
us to pay u the balance?. we travel with money.go out travel, we need
something to eat,fill our hunger.
Treat your money as an investment?.ok,see here we invest so much that
we only could afford.those who say this,$$ stable.not rich but stable.
SOME REALLY AWESOME MUSICIAN,$$ down! and have to bear this kind
of NICK-ERA.oh my.no way.
You did not even apologise to bands at artshouse on 19th april when we
we already awared you of the drumset and amplifier.
Last year at Scarlett City,AMK HUB,my band perform.i played guitars.
ONE of the amp is spoilt suddenly. and the tech man told me to use the F**king monitor as my amp!. what is this?.i rush to tell you.u busy with your tix.
and lied saying you would attend to my band in a shortwhile. cause of
your carelessness,my band played 20 mins set,overtimed the band after
us.
Ultrasound and Rockon organizers should really think of this issue.
To some bunch of wackos.this is to aware perfoming bands of what
we experienced as bands. and what about you organizers? also not
complaining izit? you also trying hard to aware bands that it's hard
for you guys ryte?.same as us.
oh yeah.dont mush around telling bands to think of this gig as a
consideration to what we are awaring them when you really
need to make effort to erase the pay balance tix mindset!.
________________________________________________________________
TY.peace one love.
don't catch fish with fake baits.
cause you'll only get the stupid ones.
once you ate,you'll be among the ones.
hey there,Ryan,from local band,local scene.
1)selling is not a problem for most bands out here.
this is a way to promote our bands.and in a way of doing this,the organizer is helping us,bands,too,promoting both parties.
2) tix sold is $12.we may be good and worth to watch.for 30 mins set.
but we are tertiary students.some of us come from poor background.
most of our friends can't afford that much.pity them.lets think orite.
if we use the phrase " please come.if u dont buy my balance tix i cant play
and its ONLY $12." they will of course get a lil disappointed "are u forcing
me if i do not want to come?".this is even if we're good.and other point
"hey sorry dude,u are my friend,and the other band are my friends too,they approach me first,bought from them already".SAD right?
3) Nick " we cant afford having an empty gig while you're playing:???: "
true.nobody wants an empty gig.but we only have sold 10/30 tix.
and pay the rest of the amount of 12x20=$240.
from our own pocket money,are we rich?NO.
If we're a new band,we really know we are good and ready to perform at
gigs,where's the REAL platform for us to perform if we have not showcase
what we are made of?.Like this case,we are good,most of our friends have
NOT HEARD US PLAY,never ever perform.NEVER.we want to perform.
but how to promote like this kind of PAY BALANCED TIX event if
our friends have not heard us yet?we cant possibly managed
to sell all the tix.and have to pay balance?
if that 10 sold tix buyer came and see us perform.the rest of the paid 20
tix,goes to organizers pocket!.no friends,no audience of ours.
Nick "most bands have no problem in selling all of my tix.is not fair to them
if other bands can't manage to sell all the tix and let them play for -
FREE JAMMING."
Hello,bro,free jamming.then we pay you balance help sell some tix.what?
FREE JAMMING?.bet your braces gone haywire.
They have no problems.why? u layout the reasons. maybe most of them
have money to pay balance.and perform at previous gigs.when they are
fresh bands.friends heard,promote them to the other friends.
Correct?.then financially down bands>till have NO NEED PAY BALANCE
TIX,then perform?.by when?.ur an organizer in this small music scene.
you expect support,where's ours?.we help u sell tix already and u want
us to pay u the balance?. we travel with money.go out travel, we need
something to eat,fill our hunger.
Treat your money as an investment?.ok,see here we invest so much that
we only could afford.those who say this,$$ stable.not rich but stable.
SOME REALLY AWESOME MUSICIAN,$$ down! and have to bear this kind
of NICK-ERA.oh my.no way.
You did not even apologise to bands at artshouse on 19th april when we
we already awared you of the drumset and amplifier.
Last year at Scarlett City,AMK HUB,my band perform.i played guitars.
ONE of the amp is spoilt suddenly. and the tech man told me to use the F**king monitor as my amp!. what is this?.i rush to tell you.u busy with your tix.
and lied saying you would attend to my band in a shortwhile. cause of
your carelessness,my band played 20 mins set,overtimed the band after
us.
Ultrasound and Rockon organizers should really think of this issue.
To some bunch of wackos.this is to aware perfoming bands of what
we experienced as bands. and what about you organizers? also not
complaining izit? you also trying hard to aware bands that it's hard
for you guys ryte?.same as us.
oh yeah.dont mush around telling bands to think of this gig as a
consideration to what we are awaring them when you really
need to make effort to erase the pay balance tix mindset!.
________________________________________________________________
TY.peace one love.
don't catch fish with fake baits.
cause you'll only get the stupid ones.
once you ate,you'll be among the ones.
your organisation blindly lets bands to play... what kind of !@#$ing shit is this?
Do you look at their demo?
Do you even bother to ask more about their band?
This is bull crap la.... This is clearly evident its just a money eating organisation....
you dont even care who plays...
So how can you just say these bands are worth $12 to pay to watch when you dont even know their standards? I am not saying the bands playing has no standard but this is a blind evidence you are giving nick...
Do you look at their demo?
Do you even bother to ask more about their band?
This is bull crap la.... This is clearly evident its just a money eating organisation....
you dont even care who plays...
So how can you just say these bands are worth $12 to pay to watch when you dont even know their standards? I am not saying the bands playing has no standard but this is a blind evidence you are giving nick...
Okay. all i can say is. if bands are not forced to sell the bands wont sell. simple. If u guys are so sure bands will sell pls go set up a gig. Invite me ill pay 12 bucks to see u lose money. Ive done it before proven and tested. Anyway this is going on long enough im sure everyone got all your msgs.
i shall close them once and for all and i wont be reply to all this anymore cause its repeated.
1) Unsold tickets- If u do not need to pay for unsold tickets isnt that not being forced u? u can take 20 return 20 nothing wrong. If most of the bands struggled or have a huge fan base and manage to sell 20 isnt it unfair? Forcing bands to pay for unsold tickets just ensures the band sells the 20 tickets.
2) $12-I believe everyone has the right to perform. I am not judge in quality of music. All i know is bands spend time jamming and preparing for the gig. I believe their effort is worth something. We are currently looking for a long term commission scheme that bands will always go home with money as long as the minimum number of tickets is reach. Any advise on amount and the system will be appreciated. Currently we are thinking of giving free tickets for them to sell as commission. (e.g) minimum 20 tickets 2 free tickets. band goes back with $24. Figures used as example.
If my gig was so terrible for you then im sorry. But nothing is perfect.
Thanks for all the positive and negitive comments so far. Anymore suggestions pls let me know.
i shall close them once and for all and i wont be reply to all this anymore cause its repeated.
1) Unsold tickets- If u do not need to pay for unsold tickets isnt that not being forced u? u can take 20 return 20 nothing wrong. If most of the bands struggled or have a huge fan base and manage to sell 20 isnt it unfair? Forcing bands to pay for unsold tickets just ensures the band sells the 20 tickets.
2) $12-I believe everyone has the right to perform. I am not judge in quality of music. All i know is bands spend time jamming and preparing for the gig. I believe their effort is worth something. We are currently looking for a long term commission scheme that bands will always go home with money as long as the minimum number of tickets is reach. Any advise on amount and the system will be appreciated. Currently we are thinking of giving free tickets for them to sell as commission. (e.g) minimum 20 tickets 2 free tickets. band goes back with $24. Figures used as example.
If my gig was so terrible for you then im sorry. But nothing is perfect.
Thanks for all the positive and negitive comments so far. Anymore suggestions pls let me know.
Ryan my man , you take bad English to a whole new level haha
AnnaKnowsYourSecret
New member
He was just typing fast,but we all get his point im sure.
syed_zack
New member
ha indeed true bro but well i beilve in paying dues.but well if there is a consistency to only this certain organiser then i believe something is indeed a lltle wrong,im sure there are others its just suay2 ultrasound i the most recognised 'swindler' so far.in inverted commas of course coz i aint here to criticze anyone jus a neutral dude.so i guess the only way to solve this is prevention is btter than cure.organiser shoud take notes and dom contructive changes and young musicians should do their homework in terms of making the right decisons on where an when to gig.haha.cmon we are all here to enjoy music so lets make it happy everyone without busrting a hole in too much pockets.living standards higher but pay no rise lo.haha.slowly wen pay rise can afford to see mor gigs.cheers again
ok you guys seriously have to stop whining after this haha whoever continues being a wet blanket after this post shall be dubbed gay and have no friends . Don't like the idea , then don't play , don't like the bands don't go , Simple eh . If you wanna be a smart ass then go convince pyongyang to end its nuclear ambitions
harrybro
New member
my opinion is
selling tix is ok, 12 dollars is reasonable.
i mean my band performs at gashaus bfore, which is More expensive.
12 dollars for 30 tickets.
that is total shit but we managed to sell it.
selling tikets is like an activity to bond with your bandmates.
stop whining guys and look at the brighter side.
once u sold all the tix,arent you satisfied to play ? even if there's no one ?
because you put in all your hardwork jus to perform.
remember, to get recognised, you have to sacrifice and do whatever it.
its all about hardwork. and i can understand why its 12 dollars per tix because its a posh place i have asked the rates to rent the place before.
and i can understand why they need profits because they're a corperate organisation.
which organisers, u tell me, doesnt like profits ? haa
come on , theyre also human, we have to respect them, they like money, we also like money hahaha.
and stop complaining about the equipments, in every gig you have to respect the organisers because they are the ones who allowed you to play. it doesnt matter how shit they were or how crappy the instruments are. we should just be grateful that they gave us a chance to show our talent.
remember, singapore music scene is nth compared to other asian countries like malaysia.
i do agree that singapore music scene is dead, why ? because of arrogant performers like us.
we should be more thankful and not whine over such silly matters. im not being biased,im not nick's friend, im jus one of u guys.
i used to fight over this, but i started to think maturely over this matter.
my band INEKEN would like to thank the organisers for giving us this expensive but learning opportunity to perform.
we will put up the best show for you guys.
selling tix is ok, 12 dollars is reasonable.
i mean my band performs at gashaus bfore, which is More expensive.
12 dollars for 30 tickets.
that is total shit but we managed to sell it.
selling tikets is like an activity to bond with your bandmates.
stop whining guys and look at the brighter side.
once u sold all the tix,arent you satisfied to play ? even if there's no one ?
because you put in all your hardwork jus to perform.
remember, to get recognised, you have to sacrifice and do whatever it.
its all about hardwork. and i can understand why its 12 dollars per tix because its a posh place i have asked the rates to rent the place before.
and i can understand why they need profits because they're a corperate organisation.
which organisers, u tell me, doesnt like profits ? haa
come on , theyre also human, we have to respect them, they like money, we also like money hahaha.
and stop complaining about the equipments, in every gig you have to respect the organisers because they are the ones who allowed you to play. it doesnt matter how shit they were or how crappy the instruments are. we should just be grateful that they gave us a chance to show our talent.
remember, singapore music scene is nth compared to other asian countries like malaysia.
i do agree that singapore music scene is dead, why ? because of arrogant performers like us.
we should be more thankful and not whine over such silly matters. im not being biased,im not nick's friend, im jus one of u guys.
i used to fight over this, but i started to think maturely over this matter.
my band INEKEN would like to thank the organisers for giving us this expensive but learning opportunity to perform.
we will put up the best show for you guys.
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