Singapore ranked second globally for nightlife and dining

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I just read the whole report:
http://www.countrybrandindex.com/resources/CBI_2006.pdf

What you have to know is the context of the report. This is a report largely for business travellers. The panel of judges consists of writers, editors,
analysts, marketers, managers and other sector professionals.

If the criteria is based on good, safe places to relax with good service and good food and drinks, I can see why Singapore ranks quite high. Italy got first btw.
 
i spun a half a dozen records at wrong speed and got ~2000 loud cheers at a gig in Europe !

I was an overnight success !!

Here, i would have been beaten to death .... :lol:
 
Haha not really. Here, the the crowd (most) act like they know the DJs. "OMG Tiesto is spinning tonigh!" But what do they know about Tiesto? It's all about name dropping over here.
 
Re: Singapore ranked second globally for nightlife and dinin

AgingYouth said:
Bro DD bro, beside the entertainment aspect of nightlife, you overlooked the other important factor: service.

I am not too sure about whether that is taken into consideration or not because annually there is a separate service survey to gauge Singapore's service standards. To what I can remember, that is how the big hoo-haa about tipping taxi drivers, low service in Singapore and finally the Smiles program coming into the picture.

We have 24 hours clubs. Some clubs in Boat Quay close at 9am or 10am. In this aspect, I've read a NYT article where the journalist actually said that 'A night at Zouk beats an entire week at RCA, Bangkok.' I'm a bit skeptical about that though cuz the last time I was there early this year. They actually had an acoustic duo performing in the ladies of one of the clubs!!!

In Boat Quay? Really? I am not too sure under what license they are operating under. I am guessing under cafeteria/eatery after certain hours. I can almost be 99% sure there isn't any license that grants 24 hours operation for dance bars/clubs. The best we could get is at 6am. Unless there have been changes in the PELU which i didn't know about.

DD
 
AgingYouth said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, bro thailoverboy bro...

That doesn't sound too much of a party town to me anymore.

But that said, there are a lotch of HOTT women in BKK! Woot!
bro AY bro...looks like ur pretty detailed in ur mini report of bkk :lol:
yup...thats all true..and after hours party are only limited to certain places if u know the 'right' pple.
we should be proud of what our country has achieved. u will be surprised how many ppl outside of singapore has heard good things about zouk.
music style wise, singapore might not be as diverse as the other clubs elsewhere, but i definitely think its pretty good enough to jiggle to.
 
theblueark said:
If you're only dissing singapore's cos you don't like it much and you imagine it to be so much better overseas, i'd suggest you go overseas and try try first, then come back tell us about it :D imagination can run wild.
bro blueark bro hit the nail in the coffin here.
there r gd clubs and BAD ones in overseas. and i mean REALLY BAD. can u imagine listening to the dj playing timberlake's sexyblack 3 times within a span of 3 hrs that i was there?! seriously guys, i think singapore's night life is so much better than all the other countries i have been to.
BUT i still love bkk :lol:
 
theblueark said:
What you have to know is the context of the report. This is a report largely for business travellers. The panel of judges consists of writers, editors,
analysts, marketers, managers and other sector professionals.

This is why I find it even harder to believe. There is no indication when this survey was done. Judging by the timing, (I'm only guessing), should be around the same time IMF was held here. Because that is period where all these professionals flock into Singapore at one go.

So far I have done shows in several countries and the clubbing scene overseas are largely differently compared to Singapore. Australia has primarily remained similar to Singapore clubbing concept but with clubs like Club Oak revolutionising the club scene there, it has evolved into something major for the DJs and Producers. This is not something "digestable" in Singapore, such that locally, we are greatly sucked by "branding".

Overseas club scene is also variant from that of Singapore because of music knowledge. Elsewhere, people know what kind of music they like, they go to specific clubs because they are being catered for, no matter what the trend is. Here locally, it's about following trend blindly. Most clubbers - not all - don't even know what genre of music they are listening to. (I was laughing the shit out of myself when a girl beside me talking to her friend, she loves the trance music this DJ is playing when my folks all knew it was Tech-House...)

A typical example is "Progressive". Under the 100+ genres of music from 1970s til now, the commonly heard "Progressive" has never ever been classfied as an official genre. But yet, it seems like a "cool" thing to call out progressive here, progressive there. Next we have the RnB and Hip Hop trend. And suddenly, all the minimalist clubbers start going to that, because wanting to be seen as trendy, and thanks to Pop.

Now you can see, Singapore has NEVER been a trend setter, but a trend follower. That's how vibrant the club scene is in other countries. They can explore, expand, influence and lead.

It's silly to link chewing gum ban to clubbing scene. And there are much more than having big names here. Most of my friends who came from US and UK were shaking their head. And oh ya, did anyone know a "gay theme" party was not granted the license to be held at MOS on the reason that "it is an unhealthy theme for the society"? But yet, at Zouk, we used to have things like lesbian "girls only" parties. Go figure that...

In Thailand, we do have clubs like Beds Supperclub that closes at 3am to 4am. It's my favourite club in BKK by the way.

In Taiwan, the huge amount of parties organisers specializing in their own genre of music. When you hit Taipei, The Roxy cannot be missed! It's the biggest name in Taipei, residing in a space that used to be a nightclub.

US and UK, needless to say, the trendsetters.

Take my words for it, many folks will not agree with my statements, especially for someone in nightlife ... DJs, club promoters. And did anyone know DJ Aldrin won the title of "Best newcomer"? Title aside, with Zouk's rich history of more than 10 years, and Aldrin almost spending his entire career there, all he got was a "newcomer". I asked all the promoters abroad, do they know about Zouk or rather Aldrin ... they go HUH? Who the hell is that?

That's how little a baby Singapore is to them.

DD
 
some nearby countries 'disco' got this ambulance siren. every now and then it will ring and got special interval show!

wait, music? hmm.. can't remember if there was music in the disco! ha..ha...ha..
 
dey .... 8O

can u please tell us more ...we are clueless here ???!! :roll:


aberthen you can lock this thread !! :lol:
 
soft said:
some nearby countries 'disco' got this ambulance siren. every now and then it will ring and got special interval show!

wait, music? hmm.. can't remember if there was music in the disco! ha..ha...ha..

Sounds like Zoo performance ... but yeah ... it was amazing the first time I club in New York. I was like a "dumb-bell"
 
Malaysia night-life ftw!
Haha!

But anw, the survey isn't really useful evidence in showing us WHY Singapore is ranked so highly. Besides... If it's the service that's getting us ranked so high, then isn't it an irony that our country's service index dropped terribly as reported in the news recently...?
 
When it comes to attitudes, service etc ... it boils down majorly to education. This is a culture that takes generations to educate and uphold, not by mere monetary gains. Sure, I can pay you a token or tip, just to see you smile. But then again, it dawns back on us, is that sincere service?

Alot of people has refered this as a chicken and egg qeustion. Service comes first, or money/thank you comes first. My personal opinion, is that if one is to engage a service vocation, it is YOUR JOB to provide the service.

Some argued that, in times of good service, we failed to appreciate them. Indeed I do agree. But should service standards be raised first before we start telling people to tip? Buying a product... itself is buying a solution and service to our life. It can be a vacumm cleaner, it can be a cup of coffee, it can be calling a helpline. The people working behind the desks selling these, what are they paid for? The salary - is to sell and provide that service.

To advocate tipping to get the kind of service you want, personally I feel it is seeking death in the long run. It will soon boils up into something, "you're not tipping me? No smile from me."

Reminds me very much of how aggressively they tried to push "talent" into the curriculum hours in schools these days. "Talent" is soethig born in you, it cannot be taught or ingested in you. The only thing schools can do is assist and be proactive to help younger generations discover their talents and cultivate them thereafters.

DD
 
Jem777 said:
Haha not really. Here, the the crowd (most) act like they know the DJs. "OMG Tiesto is spinning tonigh!" But what do they know about Tiesto? It's all about name dropping over here.

:lol: :lol: it's very true.
Once I had to accompany my friend to a clubbing place because of this Tiesto thingie. And after few hours I asked him, which one is Tiesto's mix? all sound the same to my ear. And he also not sure :lol:
 
popeye said:
which one is Tiesto's mix? all sound the same to my ear. And he also not sure :lol:

Insiders all know Tiesto do not produce music, he is only a DJ that's all. (A good one of course, although I do read feedbacks that his live mixing sux.)

It's another 2 producers who do the work and market under his name. :?

DD
 
DoubleDecker said:
Insiders all know Tiesto do not produce music, he is only a DJ that's all. (A good one of course, although I do read feedbacks that his live mixing sux.)

It's another 2 producers who do the work and market under his name. :?

DD

In your view, what could be done to better the SG clubbing scene? Seeing that you have experienced clubbing almost worldwide, it's time to pick your brain :drinkers:
 
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