Sansamp GT2? A little disappointing.

[fanir]

Bro i think your facing the same problem as i. When i tested out the Sansamp gt2 over at tymc it sounded great enough distortion and chunk. However when i plugged it in my shitty peavey amp it sounded worlds apart. So i got my friend to check it out surprisingly it sounded way better on his roland jazz chorus. So man what i suggest check your amp theres no way to make a lousy amp sound good even with boutique pedals.

Hey man, I had a jam session with my band using a Marshall JCM and I still faced the problem. So, I don't think it's the amp in this case man.

 

[mus]

Hmm, I've been giving your suggestions some thoughts and was wondering, isn't a tubescreamer more of a Distortion than an Overdrive pedal?

A tubescreamer is an overdrive effect. If you google it, this should be the result,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibanez_Tube_Screamer

The Ibanez Tube Screamer is an overdrive effect pedal produced by Ibanez and is named due to the fact that its light distortion is similar to the sound created by an overdriven tube amp.

 

[crozzfire]

fanir: That's a wrong concept. Tubescreamer is similar to the SD-1 in terms of gain. The difference is in its clipping. The tubescreamer IS an overdrive.

Since your LED is at the side, I presume its the first version huh. I've had pretty bad experiences with the newer versions as they tend to sound "colder". Perhaps thats what you feel as well no?

Yes, low drive pedals work relatively well with the GT2. Any mid-high gain pedal will only induce more noise. Try setting the tubescreamer to a clean setting. It tightens the GT2 by alot.

Btw, what guitar and pickups are you using?

 

[Phil]

The main problem is that it sounds thinny while palm-muting?
No offense, but sometimes some people have the heel of their palm too far from the bridge, resulting in a thinny sounding chug. Just wondering.

 

[mus]

Yes, low drive pedals work relatively well with the GT2. Any mid-high gain pedal will only induce more noise. Try setting the tubescreamer to a clean setting. It tightens the GT2 by alot.

I agree to that.

Btw, what guitar and pickups are you using?

He's using an LP.

 

[fanir]

Hey again! Yeap. I'm using a Gibson Les Paul Custom.

The main problem is that it sounds thinny while palm-muting?
No offense, but sometimes some people have the heel of their palm too far from the bridge, resulting in a thinny sounding chug. Just wondering.

Nah man, I'm not trying to brag or anything but I think I've got down the technique of palm muting well man. But thanks man man.

Guys, I think I'm kind of confused. From what has been said here, an overdrive pedal, or a low-gain overdrive pedal to be exact is needed here to push the drive to get that fullness. True?

 

[antishred]

Hi guys, I just purchased a GT2 and I'm quite disappointed by it. I'm into heavy chunky riffs and thick tone but when I tried it on with maximum drive, muting on it is a bit too thin and weak. Not thick and chuggy.

i dont believe you. maybe you are using the fender simulation.

the brit and calif settings has enough mids and drive for nice heavy riffing. But for soloing, it definitely needs more saturation from an overdrive pedal or compressor.

 

[ungauged]

I'm using a Sansamp GT2 and I don't have that problem.... Putting the drive gain to around 3 o'clock gives it quite a chug. But I have a TS in front to add a touch of grit.

But I don't see why the GT2 doesn't give you enough chugga chugga as it's quite chunky sounding so much so sometimes it's lacks clarity. In my opinion, one of the best "distortion" pedals in it's price range. By the way, mine is the old version.

 

[crozzfire]

Well... Yes. Besides overdriving your GT2, you may want to consider placing an eq or a compressor.

 

[fanir]

i dont believe you. maybe you are using the fender simulation.

the brit and calif settings has enough mids and drive for nice heavy riffing. But for soloing, it definitely needs more saturation from an overdrive pedal or compressor.

Hey there, I am using the Mesa Boogie simulation currently, and I won't lie to you, it's lacking in the sort of heavy department.

I'm starting to think that the pedal's a little faulty but that's saying too much. I bought it from a very nice person so I'm thinking it is the pedal.

Well... Yes. Besides overdriving your GT2, you may want to consider placing an eq or a compressor.

Why?

 

[crozzfire]

ungauged: Yeah, the old version is way way better than the current one. You're using the California channel right? I might be using the same settings as you.

fanir: Well, the thinness might also be due to the eq. Perhaps the eq pedal can help solve this. The compressor may help to induce more compression, which MAY help, depending on your situation. Try all the possibilities to see which suits you.

 

[fanir]

I don't think an EQ or a compressor might help. They would fairly but not noticebly so I'd rather look into an overdrive pedal. I've looked around Youtube and found the Ibanez TS9 to be a very good overdrive/boost pedal.

What do you guys think? A TS9 for the win? I know, I might test it out this weekend but I just want past or present experiences on this little thing. Maybe on how you combined tones from a drive pedal like GT2 with this.

Thanks.

 

[akeiser]

Hi Threadstarter,

I just read through all ur posts in this thread.
Here is my conclusion,

1. TECH21 SANAMP products are best sounded through to Full Range speakers. You can try plug it into your monitor speaker or headset to hear full sound range of the pedal. If u still cannot find your sound, then u might consider sell it or add an overdrive pedal in front as u like....

2. Ibanez 15 watt toneblaster?? - Ibanez Solid state amp itself is very boomy and mid scoop amp in my point of view. If you want to get good tight palm mute sound, the amp itself have to turn down the bass alot, and pump up mid to get a balancing sound through 8' speaker size for pedals.

3. Again, TECH21 SANAMP producs are not designed to use in front of FULL TUBE amps, such as Marshall JCM800/900/2000.... The pedal will make the amp sounded very compressed, tiny & boxy...

Hopefuly this will solve ur issue with TECH21 GT2.

I can't say that i'm big fan of TECH21, but i own TECH21 amp & pedals, so i roughly can give u what i know can get the best from their products.

Cheers!

 

[ungauged]

I'd suggest you try tweaking around the settings on the GT2. I honestly feel it has the capability to sound the way you want it to sound. You can try increasing the lows for more chug and increasing the highs for more clarity.

Akeiser: I've gigged with the GT2 on a JCM800 a few times before... sounds great live IMO. The GT2 has never failed me in the distortion department since the day I bought it.

 

[akeiser]

ungauged:
Yes, i agreed that sanamp still capable to use in front of full tube amp. Anyway, volume in gigs and volume in bedroom test can make the differences also. =)

 

[fuzzmusick]

I've got to agree with crozzfire..

I think you should put an EQ pedal after the GT-2. EQ could do wonders if you know how to tweak it..

Adding an overdrive or ds-2 will not solve the problem and will cause more noise, unless if you want to join me for a noise-improv jam.

 

[fanir]

Hi Threadstarter,

I just read through all ur posts in this thread.
Here is my conclusion,

1. TECH21 SANAMP products are best sounded through to Full Range speakers. You can try plug it into your monitor speaker or headset to hear full sound range of the pedal. If u still cannot find your sound, then u might consider sell it or add an overdrive pedal in front as u like....

2. Ibanez 15 watt toneblaster?? - Ibanez Solid state amp itself is very boomy and mid scoop amp in my point of view. If you want to get good tight palm mute sound, the amp itself have to turn down the bass alot, and pump up mid to get a balancing sound through 8' speaker size for pedals.

3. Again, TECH21 SANAMP producs are not designed to use in front of FULL TUBE amps, such as Marshall JCM800/900/2000.... The pedal will make the amp sounded very compressed, tiny & boxy...

Hopefuly this will solve ur issue with TECH21 GT2.

I can't say that i'm big fan of TECH21, but i own TECH21 amp & pedals, so i roughly can give u what i know can get the best from their products.

Cheers!

Hi there, thanks so much for your input here! Much appreciated!

1. Yes, I have tried it through my headphones, a Panasonic RP-HT223 and it sounds decent but still, I'm not able to get the tone that I want. It's just very subtle distortion, no hi-gain tones even with the drive dialled at maximum.

2. True, but I should be able to get at least a decent tone out without it. I don't mind if its boomy or something, its just a bedroom amp. There's much drive or gain from it. Very thin yet again.

3. I see, but again, referring to point number 2. At least a decent tone.

I'd suggest you try tweaking around the settings on the GT2. I honestly feel it has the capability to sound the way you want it to sound. You can try increasing the lows for more chug and increasing the highs for more clarity.

I have man, spend the whole of yesterday's day and night figuring this baby out. When I got it, I thought way awesome, more fun hours ahead but it has just been a little disappointing really.

The problem I'm facing right now is I want more gain, more full locked heavy chunky sound.

Thanks so much guys for the input. Really appreciate it.

 

[fanir]

I've got to agree with crozzfire..

I think you should put an EQ pedal after the GT-2. EQ could do wonders if you know how to tweak it..

Adding an overdrive or ds-2 will not solve the problem and will cause more noise, unless if you want to join me for a noise-improv jam.

It's good if I want the tone out, but the thing is, I just need more drive, I don't have any problem with the highs or lows.

 

[THOA]

You know what? It's getting a little obvious that the pedal is not for you, seeing how you tweaked and tweaked but it still won't give you what you want. So I guess, it's best that you just get another pedal that might suit you better.

Did you purchase it 2nd hand or new?

 

[THOA]

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