Recommendation for LP Bridge PUP!

[Ized]

Oh ok. But how much would bringing a pup like that in cost ? i kinda like the sound of the zen pups. from the demo at least. and yeah i find the jb a little too thin too. wouldnt mind it for a strat type guitar though.. but for a lp i'm looking for a different kind of sound.

and haha yeah if it worked for dave mustaine its probably cause he really like nasal sounds, judging from his voice. (OK IM KIDDING) not dissing him yeah i sometimes prefer megadeth's overall band sound as compared to metallica.

oh and yeah about the chrome covers, yeah i heard about that reducing the output (is it?) of the pickup or sth. What is the main difference really? Cause from the cosmetic point of view, pickups cover look way nicer on lp IMO. but i'm not really big on cosmetic, more concerned about the sound..

It would be about 25 USD i guess....but if more ppl chip in then the cost will be divided accordingly. Plus the pup, it'd come up to about 165 bucks including shipping.

The Zen really sounds whacked...I played it yesterday and the clarity was superb...cleans had sparkle and that bright edge that the JB had but without that nasal thin sound. It sounded much fuller and the way the notes blooms into sustain was really sweet! Cleans sounded great too...I felt that I could finally use the bridge pup for clean for once!

I too like megadeth, I find their overall sound more polished and tighter to Metallica. I especially like their dueling guitar leads... definitely an interesting twist from just listening to kirk hammet wanking away, he being the sole lead guitarist of the band.

I guess having chrome covers are more for cosmetic reasons than anything else....humbucker pups were only made for gibsons lps back in the days and they had to do wax potting so sealing them in chrome covers seemed like a logical idea. They also matched the look of the LP (esp the goldtop). They do reduce the output a little though...which was why uncovered pus were all the rage in the shred-metal high gain 80s era.

 

[junhao405]

well most of the time if u lower the volume knob, u will lose some highs.

anyway i'm with ized and faizal, stan hinesley pickups are very worth the cash. if u can afford to wait, and get hold of a credit card, i'd say do it!

here's another one which i'm considering very hard to get:
http://www.highorderpickups.com/

drop him an email, and tell him what u want in ur pickups. its 100% customed. very very reasonably priced too at 75USD per pickup, its a no brainer.

Awesome, such good one. but feel weird. buying a custom pickup.

 

[teleplayer]

yes some ppl learn it the hard way.

i know a few telecaster users, who want brutal heavy distortion out of their instruments. the pop a dimarzio super distortion T in the bridge. and when they want to switch to their neck pickup, their volume drops tremendously.

its better to get pickups as a set unless u really know what u're doing

HAHA a few...? but i am used to it already.

But anyway, i am the person dudelove is talking about. in some cases, it is better to get pickups as a set. but for some cases, it's somewhat alright to get unmatch pickups.. Because at that time, i did not really use the middle position of my tele (i don't really care about the volume drop as i used the neck for clean and bridge for drive). I only use the neck and bridge. but because of some reason, the person who helped me wired the dimarzio on my tele, wired it differently... so it sounded out of phase.. (too!) haha.

i tried to solve the volume drop thing by adjusting the height of pickup.. so the neck pickup is very close to my strings and the bridge is not that close. so the volume issue is somewhat solved. (to me)

so now i can go from high gain to twang. (not saying that the tele single coil can't do high gain.)

 

[siao_guy]

It would be about 25 USD i guess....but if more ppl chip in then the cost will be divided accordingly. Plus the pup, it'd come up to about 165 bucks including shipping.

Hmm you're talking USD or the pup only? oh and, is there anywhere to try such a pup? cause that might just make me press the trigger at once hahaha, or turn me off. Either way. Anyw, i do use bridge for clean as well, cause my neck sound too thick and muddy at times. Listening to you describing that pup is already making me feel like getting one hahaha. If money wasn't such an issue I would totally like to experiment with it.

I too like megadeth, I find their overall sound more polished and tighter to Metallica. I especially like their dueling guitar leads... definitely an interesting twist from just listening to kirk hammet wanking away, he being the sole lead guitarist of the band.

Hmmm yeah i kinda agree with you about their sound. Was quite surprised when i seriously went to listen to them as I used to think Metallica were like "woah awesome". But then again, at times i find Megadeth's sound a little too trebly and harsh for me. Thats when i go back to Metallica's playlist hahaha. And HEY KIRK HAMMETT IS MY IDOL! DONT DISS HIM. Nah i'm kidding. I prefer James Hetfield to him actually. The Attitude, the Sound, the Style and the Looks. Oh and throw in the GUITAR. (IRON CROSS LP) But he has his weak points of course..

Anyw, back to the topic, how significant really is the reduced output of the chrome covers? And plus, if your pup is without a cover, is it possible to mod one on to it? Cause that might be a way for me to like compare the differences.

Sigh and just side-track abit, how important are the effects and amp overdrive compared to the pups when trying to get a certain tone? Cause the more i listen to it, the more i think my zoom 2.1u patches lacks something. DONT FLAME ME I KNOW ITS BUDGET. Lol.

 

[dudelove]

But anyway, i am the person dudelove is talking about.

ehhh not really leh.. hahah i totally forgot u use a tele with super distortion. the person's not u.. :mrgreen:

 

[dudelove]

Anyw, back to the topic, how significant really is the reduced output of the chrome covers? And plus, if your pup is without a cover, is it possible to mod one on to it? Cause that might be a way for me to like compare the differences.

pickups which have covers on em are usually wax potted. removing them is a pain in the ass. this topic has been discussed to death already i believe. yes there's is a difference, slightly less output and highs with the covers on.

if u want to put on covers on a uncovered pickup, its fine, and doable, and totally reversible. just that, its not wax potted, so in a band setting, microphonic squeels and all sorts of noise will be amplified through ur pickup. its not very desirable.

 

[teleplayer]

ehhh not really leh.. hahah i totally forgot u use a tele with super distortion. the person's not u.. :mrgreen:

LOL. didn't know there were quite a few people who put a super distortion T on a tele.. haha.

 

[dudelove]

LOL. didn't know there were quite a few people who put a super distortion T on a tele.. haha.

alot man. and somehow, its always super distortion T

post hardcore, like the shape of a tele, needs heavy distortion. i know 2 guys.. hehe

 

[EngelFaeuste]

SD Blackouts Metal

Don't need to think so much. Active is the way to go.

 

[teleplayer]

post hardcore, like the shape of a tele, needs heavy distortion. i know 2 guys.. hehe

yeah man... hahaha.

 

[siao_guy]

SD Blackouts Metal

Don't need to think so much. Active is the way to go.

Tried before! Active pups i mean.. dont really like them unless i'm really going hardcore heavy. i already have another guitar for that purpose haha.. (btw i belong to the EMG camp for actives lol)

Looking for something that can scream but at the same time retains the warmth thick sound of the juicy lp lol.

thanks anyw

 

[EngelFaeuste]

Try the Tesla Plasma 7.

 

[Ized]

Hmm you're talking USD or the pup only? oh and, is there anywhere to try such a pup? cause that might just make me press the trigger at once hahaha, or turn me off. Either way. Anyw, i do use bridge for clean as well, cause my neck sound too thick and muddy at times. Listening to you describing that pup is already making me feel like getting one hahaha. If money wasn't such an issue I would totally like to experiment with it.




Hmmm yeah i kinda agree with you about their sound. Was quite surprised when i seriously went to listen to them as I used to think Metallica were like "woah awesome". But then again, at times i find Megadeth's sound a little too trebly and harsh for me. Thats when i go back to Metallica's playlist hahaha. And HEY KIRK HAMMETT IS MY IDOL! DONT DISS HIM. Nah i'm kidding. I prefer James Hetfield to him actually. The Attitude, the Sound, the Style and the Looks. Oh and throw in the GUITAR. (IRON CROSS LP) But he has his weak points of course..

Anyw, back to the topic, how significant really is the reduced output of the chrome covers? And plus, if your pup is without a cover, is it possible to mod one on to it? Cause that might be a way for me to like compare the differences.

Sigh and just side-track abit, how important are the effects and amp overdrive compared to the pups when trying to get a certain tone? Cause the more i listen to it, the more i think my zoom 2.1u patches lacks something. DONT FLAME ME I KNOW ITS BUDGET. Lol.

Goose owns a Zen in his Orville Goldtop, I tried it. Maybe you can pm him if you wanna give it a go.

Sorry I meant that it'd cost about 165 buckeroos in local currency for the pickup in all after factoring 25 USD shipping.

Sorry if you felt offended that I dissed your idol...Kirk is definitely a legend and is great in his own right. He is touring the world and making loads of money so yeah

dudelove has already mentioned on the wax potted part of the chrome covers so I guess you got your answer.

As for regards to active PUs... I wonder if most of you guys notice a certain characteristic from records which has guitarists using them

 

[siao_guy]

Sorry if you felt offended that I dissed your idol...Kirk is definitely a legend and is great in his own right. He is touring the world and making loads of money so yeah

Hey its alright man! i was just kidding! hahaha. kirk is a legend alright, some say as a "wah-wanker". well he is great in his own right, like you said hahahaha.. but hey he belongs to one of the most influential bands in the thrash metal scene!

hmmm alright i'll pm goose once my exams are over or something. and i think 165 is alright if the pup sounds damn good. but then again, most pups are around 130-150 right? i mean like those SD and DiMarzios. so they're a tad pricier than them. but oh wells, all boils down to the sound..

active PUs? They sound somewhat sterile and flat to me. And i really dont like the clean sounds of EMG Active PUs, not too sure about blackouts, never played them clean. but i do love the high output of them, the pups can scream like nobody business with proper amp and efx. dont really find them very versatile IMO...

 

[EngelFaeuste]

As for regards to active PUs... I wonder if most of you guys notice a certain characteristic from records which has guitarists using them

Very balls to the wall. Anything else to add Ized?

 

[junhao405]

So what the conculsion to the pickup? Which is the recommended one?

 

[junkiemanxl]

I think with the kind of music you'll be playing, PAFish pups might suit you better. Sometimes higher output does not mean better. SD pups tend to compliment les pauls pretty well.

I'm using a JB and a 59 on my edwards. It's not a bad combination for availability in the market.

Try the SD seth's

 

[siao_guy]

So what the conculsion to the pickup? Which is the recommended one?

Well from my point of view as the TS with my kind of genre, so far what i have gathered from the whole discussion is,

Stan Heinsley Zen
DiMarzio Super Distortion
Seymour Duncan '59

Well some maybe pups..
Seymour Duncan Seth Lover
Tesla Plasma (still reading up)
MAYBE Seymour Duncan JB?

Oh wells, choosing pups are really a headache :???: Maybe thats why they came up with matching sets lol. Kinda looking forward to hearing the Zen Pups live, the online demo sounds good to me!

 

[faizal_rocks]

I used the Tesla VR-3 and Tesla Plasma 7 bridge humbuckers before and they are pretty good for playing all round rock. Only used them in Strats so I can't comment how they would sound like in a LP.

Ever heard of the Tonerider humbuckers? 99 USD per set, according to Ebay. I have the Rocksong ones (Alnico II magnets overwound, more oomph than the vintage ones), neck and bridge but I have never used them both at the same time in the same guitar but I can say the Rocksong bridge HB made my Strat warmer to tame my bright alder Strat body Oh, they are for sale, btw..

U might also wanna consider Stan Hinesley Kashmir. The PAF pickup that 1st came out back then and its really sweet sounding for that vintage LP overdriven sound

 

[junhao405]

Ha. I am also going to change my lp pickup. Sigh, money problem. SD really sound great on my teacher Tokai lp. It is CLEAN..