punk rock and emo

zel said:
err..as stated above...can some one tell me the difference between punk rock and emo...lyk wat kind of music is considered as punk rock...and i would lyk to ask...has green day turned emo?


wow..this is hard to answer..lol.. i think that music so diversed now and keeps on progressing... you see, bands nowadays like to try different styles of sounds.. that's progressive.. so far bands that i heard of purely punkrock genre is lagwagon, strungout because they haven't changed their music till their latest album..go on hear them :D and as for purely emo, u may try hearing bright eyes, elliot smith... usually emo sounds very mellow and sad...just an info for you... :D and people..correct me if i'm wrong ya..cheerS!
 
When dealing with music genres that have their own associated subculture, you have to go beyond analysing the music and understand the context of how emo emerged.

Emo, in short, came about as a response to hardcore punk. Where hardcore punk music was driven by aggression/anger, emo music was driven more by personal emotion. Which is why when people ask me what emo is, I say emo is (was) like punk rock, but more "in touch with your feelings".

This all reminds me of how that whole "alternative" movement took over MTV in the 1990s. Back then everything on modern rock radio was considered "alternative". But that whole age of alternative music came about with the rise and demise of Nirvana and grunge music, which was itself a response to the frivolous glam rock/hair metal of the 80s. By the mid 1990s the whole concept of alternative music being the alternative to whatevers on mainstream radio was already lost.

UK punk rock in the 70s, rock and roll in the 60s and blues music sung by slaves in pre-emancipation America.

All these "genres" came about as a response to circumstances of the times musicians were living in and original context of their music gets lost as the world moves on. Especially when music has become more of a consumption good than a form of art.

It's all about context.
 
so basically wat ppl are trying to say is dat the tune of the song doesn't make the band emo/punk but whether how n wat dey sing...am i rite?
 
this thread again? emo used to have a style of music that had been its own. sunny day real estate, appleseed cast, mineral, fugazi and 'post hardcore' stuff. and they had pretty damn good technicality in their music writing. like how photography gradually became an art form after cameras were introduced, emo probably evolved into 'every damn thing sappy sad and suicidal'. well but i guess you can't prevent something like that from happening
 
the days of social distortion & unwritten law have been taken over now by the new wave of punk "rock" & emo bands n what not. with so many divisions in music these days, soon, all of u will suffer from a new kind of migraine. technological music warfare. techno wins..flawless victory.
 
All these categorisation is started by the music journalists, otherwise they have difficulty writing their articles. And then the fans come in and argue about it.....
 
So what exactly makes EMO, EMO?? Everyone say RHCP is not, i know they're not, but there are some songs with emo influences, Now get off my back with the rhcp comment already.
 
you guys can sit here and argue what is punk and what is emo and what is screamo and what is hardcore and what is ska and what is reggae til the cows come home.... its one of those arguements that will keep popping up. just like is...

simple plan punk?
the used hardcore?


in singapore kids seem to be confused about their identity. they seem to confused about alot of things...

rather than copying what they see on myspace or music videos perhaps these kids in bands should practice their instruments and try to start doing something different, inovative, something new and fresh...

because by the end of this year i see everyband here playing emo/screamo... (apart from of course the jang jang metal bands and ah beng china popstars)
 
But Bright Eyes is not a staple on MTV Asia. How can they be considered as an emo band? Or in fact, how can Conor Oberst be considered as a serious musician? He doesn't wear MAC mascara or Revlon eyeliners, does he?
 
tbone said:
you guys can sit here and argue what is punk and what is emo and what is screamo and what is hardcore and what is ska and what is reggae til the cows come home.... its one of those arguements that will keep popping up. just like is...

simple plan punk?
the used hardcore?


in singapore kids seem to be confused about their identity. they seem to confused about alot of things...

rather than copying what they see on myspace or music videos perhaps these kids in bands should practice their instruments and try to start doing something different, inovative, something new and fresh...

because by the end of this year i see everyband here playing emo/screamo... (apart from of course the jang jang metal bands and ah beng china popstars)

Zappa said it best : Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar!
 
Or how bout just "shut up."? :lol:

Seriously, enough of these bloody genre debates.

Shut up and go write your own music instead of bitching about genre differentiation, people. Get a life. :twisted:
 
SherT said:
Or how bout just "shut up."? :lol:

Seriously, enough of these bloody genre debates.

Shut up and go write your own music instead of bitching about genre differentiation, people. Get a life. :twisted:

im pretty sure that you wouldnt like the music that my band writes....

tbone wrote:
simple plan punk?


No, no...they're Power Pop...they said it themselves...

that was an example.
 
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