poll: what u want in a studio
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duskalways
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eh....EvilGtr, you didn't factor in spoilage of equipment. there will probably be some costs involved in that area. also, the soundproofing will also cost more, because you are in a central district. my 2 cents! :wink:
hmm .. i suggest maybe 2 peaveys studio pro 112 or something .. priced at 520 or smth .. like mikemann 1 ..
or perhaps ... a 100 watt ibanez ?? 600 plus i tink ..
ibanez amps . i feel are gd and also not that price heavy ..
well ..there are many things to see to lar .. this kinda business .. we at soft.com.sg , will be more then willing to offer as much help as possible as long as its within our means
or perhaps ... a 100 watt ibanez ?? 600 plus i tink ..
ibanez amps . i feel are gd and also not that price heavy ..
well ..there are many things to see to lar .. this kinda business .. we at soft.com.sg , will be more then willing to offer as much help as possible as long as its within our means
EvilGtr said:
Your soundproofing costing is way off mark man.
A single good soundproofed door by itself costs $2000-$5000. The one at Yamaha costs much more. Do you need to make soundproofed partitions? How about outfitting of aircons. Cannot use cheap or old aircons, especially those with low BTUs like those u find in HDB rooms (7000 BTU only). The higher the BTU, the higher the cooling power. The cooling need of a jamming room is higher compard to a bedroom or office. This is because the room will be generating a LOT of heat... not just due to animated bodies, but all the amps and what not being turned on. The higher the BTU, the higher the price lah. THIS IS WHY MANY JAMMERS FIND THAT MANY STUDIOS HAVE AIRCONS BUT FOR SHOW ONLY... cos not cool enuf... Which floor will you be in? If you are NOT on the ground floor, you have to soundblock the floors. At least 10K per room (just for the floors). If you are really serious to get into this business, I suggest you go talk to a good contractor who knows soundproofing business, not any CONtractor. I suggest you talk Roland (contractor from Swee Lee).By the way how many years lease? This looks to be a 1 year lease only (cos the deposit is only for 1 mth). Scary you know. If owner decide to kick you out after one year, your investment go down the drain. Will there be any legal document signed by a lawyer? You may want to talk to a lawyer.
You also forgot many equipment for the studios - cymbals (not cheap), double pedals, cables, PA systems (mics, mic stands, board, speakers), keyboards, keyboard stands, guitar stands. Music stands. And for all these, backups, so that if something spoil, your business can go on without dissing your customers.
Next have you contacted the owner of the space? Dont be surprised if they balked at jamming business. Some just dont like it cos wait kena complain by neighbours, cos no matter how much u soundproof, there will be leakage for sure.
I dont think you can charge $15 per hour lah. Maybe $8-$10 like mikemann's studio. There are studios charging $15 per hour which uses marshall stacks and yamaha drumsets. Your budget doesnt seem to allow you to outfit a studo for a $15 p/hr price and if people dont find you good value for money, they will not come.
You must also visit as many studios as possible. See what they are doing right and how they are not. See if you can offer a niche. If you just want to setup a studio for the sake of making easy money, you will be disappointed.
Then there are of course the hidden costs which you as an entreprising entreprenuer will have to find out yrself :}
Good luck!
EvilGtr
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Thanks for all the feedback man... kekee now I am indeed intimidated and ashamed of my lack of knowledge, guess I have a lot more research to do.... anyway, I indeed am doin this (if i do) as a hobby, tho i definitely would not wanna lose money if i had the choice, for that matter I dun even think i'll be manning the studio even if i open one up lol.... maybe i should start thinking of alternative hobbies that will not use up too much money :?
Mobius
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For the sound proofing part , if u look at some of the studios they don really sound proof the whole room, only some parts of the wall have sound proofing..I guess how much u need to soundproof depends on who ur neighbours are..Mayb this will help u in saving some cost..My 2 cents
studio Cash
I am sorry dude. How much do you know about Maxtone? Have you even seen their catalogue?
On the subject properI think everyone should think like WOULD you spend that kind of money to let everyone use your fav guitar or amp. For personal use go ahead and buy that 20ft sky high rack system, but for business, you wouldnt want something thats good to look at but dont last.
Trust me, its totally shitty when you spend 1K on a marshall only to have the circuit board fried one day after the warranty ends,and it takes 6 months for them to bloody fix it.
Dude, have u calculated the overheads yet? And where are u located? If I were to have excess money, I choose AMK to open one. Thats where the cake is. And that's where I am going for my next one.
Peace
Darren
Frummer said:
I am sorry dude. How much do you know about Maxtone? Have you even seen their catalogue?
On the subject properI think everyone should think like WOULD you spend that kind of money to let everyone use your fav guitar or amp. For personal use go ahead and buy that 20ft sky high rack system, but for business, you wouldnt want something thats good to look at but dont last.
Trust me, its totally shitty when you spend 1K on a marshall only to have the circuit board fried one day after the warranty ends,and it takes 6 months for them to bloody fix it.
Dude, have u calculated the overheads yet? And where are u located? If I were to have excess money, I choose AMK to open one. Thats where the cake is. And that's where I am going for my next one.
Peace
Darren
Re: proofing
Actually theres 2 things at play for a music studio - sound proofing and acoustic treament. Sound proofing is the stoppage of sound travelling outside the studio. Acoustic treatment is how the sound is allowed to be absorbed/bounce around inside the studio to get the desired sound effect. The sounding of a dead room is not because of over soudnproofing but over in the acoustic treatment department - too much bass traps etc.
Soundproofing is important in Singaproe context because unless you are rich to buy yr own building, you will have neighbours and if neighbours compalin about you, out you go. Otherwise, you will have to tell yuor jammers to play softly. haha
For acoustic treatment, agree with Darren that some reverb is nice. Otherwise everything flat and dead, worst still bass cant be heard (like completely swallowed). Acoustic treatment is extremely important for recording studios.
Darren said:
Actually theres 2 things at play for a music studio - sound proofing and acoustic treament. Sound proofing is the stoppage of sound travelling outside the studio. Acoustic treatment is how the sound is allowed to be absorbed/bounce around inside the studio to get the desired sound effect. The sounding of a dead room is not because of over soudnproofing but over in the acoustic treatment department - too much bass traps etc.
Soundproofing is important in Singaproe context because unless you are rich to buy yr own building, you will have neighbours and if neighbours compalin about you, out you go. Otherwise, you will have to tell yuor jammers to play softly. haha
For acoustic treatment, agree with Darren that some reverb is nice. Otherwise everything flat and dead, worst still bass cant be heard (like completely swallowed). Acoustic treatment is extremely important for recording studios.
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