Music culture in JCs?

Its quite sad how some people turn music into an elitism thing, where the "pure and superior" metalheads place themselves at the top of the hierachy.

my music is cooler than yours.
 
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I will just say this simply. It's okay to have a jazz culture, a reggae culture, a punk culture, a metal culture, a blues culture, a classical culture in anywhere. I regard them as true, beautiful and uncorrupted music.

But I'm just totally against pop and the mainstream music. The commercialization of pop is just like Coke turning the world upside down. Music has now become so saturated and everything that music does have got to do with money. I don't quite get along with this idea, because from an artistic point of view, art should never be associated with vices like money. We do it purely for the people to enjoy and to gain maturity as we grow with our music.

We hold our music in high regard and to think that pop is such a global affair with so much money involved, I don't really feel good about the music. Haven't you guys ever thought of the dip in quality of music produced as music gets commercialized? If you don't, I suggest you look at the likes of music some 40 years ago and compare them with modern music.

Of course, there are good pop songs out there. I do listen to them because I find them meaningful and afterall, pop is still somehow music. But there, it's a minority.

And to put it this way, Soft has many metalheads around because metalheads form the musicians, not the poppies! Or rather, the minority forms the music, while only a little of the majority actually do it.

But whatever it is, I really dislike pop, but I've never inhibited anyone from listening to pop in any way. I still respect pop but there, I do reason my dislike for pop.

So don't say that I diss pop.
 
do your assignment yourself lah :P


i was from a JC but the music culture there was kinda boring. So many people into mainstream kinda crap and few metalheads and lotsa gay emo people. Kinda disappointed.

on the other hand, what were you expecting?
 
theres nothing wrong with commercialisation of music. its just another way to reach out to masses in this materialistic world.
Without commercialistion.. you think incubus will come to Singapore? you think dream theater will come to Singapore?
40 years ago, music was commericialised too, infact buying music back then would have been so much mnore expensive than it would be now
 
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I'm in MJC here, the culture is quite bad actually, also a lot of mainstream stuff. Lucky I know a friend to listens to about the same music as me.
 
Well guys, not all like our type of music. Be it POP , ROCK etc. Music is universal. Live with it. If you love music, love all genre. If don't like it , live with it. Different people different taste. Music culture is not by schools or whatsoever. It by the individuals.

And whats wrong with JC students listening to something mainstream? Be opened. Theres always people who hates our likings in music. So yeah.

Cheers.
 
You say you "I'm just totally against pop and the mainstream music", but then you add "So don't say that I diss pop". Hmm????

But anyway, it is fun to make fun of my friends who listen to pop. I do it just to piss them off sometimes. I understand how it is like to be an music elitist. :cool:

On a side note, metal music is a form of really honest music, I admit that. I enjoy listening to metal too. But now coming to think of it, I think metal is also guilty of lacking in artistic value. Have metal really undergone significant changes from 80s till today? The guitars have more distortion and the drums are faster, but fundamentally, very little has changed. Metal musicians have created limitations upon themselves by disregarding any changes to their music. Just some food for thought...


And back to the topic, JCs have the band culture I guess, due to the presence of band ccas like symphonic, strings orchestra, choir, chinese orchestra, guitar ensemble, etc. Then there will be the usual rock bands, which exist not just in JCs but everywhere.
 
I'm referring to the quality of music. You can't find the likes of Stairway To Heaven now, can you?

quality is subjective.
there are modern rock bands which have been compared to led zep, and there have been songs that was labeled as the 'stairway to heaven' of this generation, of course these are pretty subjective too.
 
There IS alot of chinese pop in aj but thankfully I've found a group of people who roughly share the same music tastes with me.
You know just the other day, I heard someone playing yellowcard in the stairwell. It annoyed me like hell, not because I totally hate them/ But its another thing repeating it over and over again...
 
I mean even though I am totally against pop, I still respect it as a form of music. That's not called dissing, isn't it?

Okay, music taste is definitely subjective. But I guess, modern songs do not catch our ears as much as all those good oldies do. I can only name a few relatively modern songs which caught my attention as compared to all the older works like Stairway To Heaven, Smoke On The Water, Voodoo Child, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, etc.

I mean, there's a reason why oldies caught our attention more than modern songs.
 
Rockafella, I hate that word, cus only cjc people are allowed in it.

it used to be that non cjc-ians could go, until it became such that many cjc-ians were deprived of going because everyone else wanted to go. but having said that, i hated that ruling too. it just didnt make sense since tickets were first come first serve basis, if outsiders got hold of them first, i'd reckon they should have more right to go if they showed more interest.
 
I mean even though I am totally against pop, I still respect it as a form of music. That's not called dissing, isn't it?

empihsrow, i get what you mean. but perhaps you could phrase it such that you don't seem to diss pop. haha..cos being 'against' could have pretty harsh connotations. however, what i gather from you is that you wouldn't support the pop industry in general and dislike listening to pop music, but you wldn't go so far as to condemn all pop artists to the depths of wherever...am i right?
 
Bro, i dont listen to metal coz a minority of the population listens to it but because i can really connect with the music, lyrics and culture.

So even IF metal does turn mainstream (HOPEFULLY NOT) i will continue listening to it.

All im asking is that metal be more recognized and given more respect or be treated on par with Pop, Rap, RnB etc.

Cheers

Woah woah wait...first you said that you don't listen to Metal cause that it's not that popular, and you wouldn't care if it went mainstream.

Then you went on to say "Hopefully not" if Metal does turn mainstream. Then AGAIN you go and say that you want metal to be more RECOGNISED? Woah, contradiction heaven right there. Are you sure which side you're leaning?
 
gotta love all the contradictory and backpedaling posts in this thread so far.. keep it up guys! :rolleyes:
 
tsk tsk

So many purists and elitists.

Music from genres you like is akin to going to your favourite store. Music from genres you diss is like going to a flea market. Among all that piles of what you think is junk you might just find something valuable.
 
=ruixist

Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks for clearing up. I'm a little lost in my head now.

Okay, I do listen to good old pop songs, anyway. Like Richard Marx's Right Here Waiting, Elton John's Can You Feel The Love Tonight.

I think these songs are the best pop songs out there and they are valuable.

It's not a form of disrespect, I guess?
 
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