leave my beer can behind. going to court.
- Thread starter rickylah
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Bo pian, sometimes some of us as singaporean citizens we just bow our heads and take punishments even though we are not wrong. What signal does this send to them, since it is such a common occurence sooner or later they will always think they are right.
How does one prove intent? If from what i read in the posts here, this is NEA's policy toward littering then i think its very scary. Guilty until proven innocent? Sounds like Minority Report.
How does one prove intent? If from what i read in the posts here, this is NEA's policy toward littering then i think its very scary. Guilty until proven innocent? Sounds like Minority Report.
splintersfury
New member
not much u can do against the authority....
i suggest u jus pay... and let karma take its place...
i suggest u jus pay... and let karma take its place...
Tetragrammaton
Member
What has been done cannot be undone. But during that point in time, you should call the police and don't handover your IC till the policeman come. I have encountered countless incident with NEA until I recognised some of them when I see them.
The last time, like you I left my things and that was my shopping bag. The stupid, uneducated, lazy, troublemaker, etc..etc..NEA Officers want to fine me for littering. I refuse to give in my IC instead I call the police. Until the policemen came then I hand over my IC to the policeman not to the bloody stupid NEA officer. Obviously, who wants to liter something you've bought. I was safe but it took sometime for the police to come. The stupid thing is I was let off to a crime I never commit.
The last time, like you I left my things and that was my shopping bag. The stupid, uneducated, lazy, troublemaker, etc..etc..NEA Officers want to fine me for littering. I refuse to give in my IC instead I call the police. Until the policemen came then I hand over my IC to the policeman not to the bloody stupid NEA officer. Obviously, who wants to liter something you've bought. I was safe but it took sometime for the police to come. The stupid thing is I was let off to a crime I never commit.
EzaRitualBella
New member
imo
myb n.e.a officers just put shoe box or a empty bottle purposely at the side walk wait till somebody accidently kick it and go fine them....
have u ever notice ..
of all places they came up to u without notice and that it's all well plan.
myb n.e.a officers just put shoe box or a empty bottle purposely at the side walk wait till somebody accidently kick it and go fine them....
have u ever notice ..
of all places they came up to u without notice and that it's all well plan.
tpiledriver
New member
maybe the more offenders they caught, they will get more commisions. jk.
d2nial
New member
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Yeah maybe thats the case the more offenders they caught, the more commisions they get ,since they accuse innocent people falsely .
I mean i would accept to pay a fine if i am in the wrong. So never trust an NEA officer or any authority and never give them you IC if you feel that ur not guilty, cause if ur ic is handed over u wouldnt have a chance of proving urself innocent.
Check this link out on how to exercise your constitutional rights during encounters with police, NEA officer or any authority: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA&feature=PlayList&p=CFA31348CB5D930D&index=3
Yeah maybe thats the case the more offenders they caught, the more commisions they get ,since they accuse innocent people falsely .
I mean i would accept to pay a fine if i am in the wrong. So never trust an NEA officer or any authority and never give them you IC if you feel that ur not guilty, cause if ur ic is handed over u wouldnt have a chance of proving urself innocent.
Check this link out on how to exercise your constitutional rights during encounters with police, NEA officer or any authority: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA&feature=PlayList&p=CFA31348CB5D930D&index=3
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The whole problem is there is lack of transparency of what constitutes littering and what is not. Even if there is, it is never or insufficiently conveyed to the public.
For examples:
- Is leaving your belonging behind unintentionally littering?
- Is kicking or touching an already discarded item littering?
- If you accidentally drop your belonging, is that littering?
- So what constitutes belonging and what constitutes trash?
.....and the list goes on.
No doubt some transparency is needed. However, if you look at the matter closely.....the crux of effective enforcement is.....SIMPLE AND BASIC COMMON SENSE. Sad to say, some of these NEA officers are seriously lacking in them or just plain ignorant, or else such incidents wouldn't have arised.
For examples:
- Is leaving your belonging behind unintentionally littering?
- Is kicking or touching an already discarded item littering?
- If you accidentally drop your belonging, is that littering?
- So what constitutes belonging and what constitutes trash?
.....and the list goes on.
No doubt some transparency is needed. However, if you look at the matter closely.....the crux of effective enforcement is.....SIMPLE AND BASIC COMMON SENSE. Sad to say, some of these NEA officers are seriously lacking in them or just plain ignorant, or else such incidents wouldn't have arised.
FrancescaAnn
New member
This is Singapore .... we are a FINE country. What to do?
optisailor2002
New member
damn, i want to be an NEA officer. then i can just fine almost everybody that i see. and maybe earn some kickass commissions for getting so many litter bugs 
i'll line the whole bloody pavement with shoeboxes so anyone who needs to cross the path will be my cash-cow
*milk them dry milk them dry*
i'll line the whole bloody pavement with shoeboxes so anyone who needs to cross the path will be my cash-cow
*milk them dry milk them dry*
velvetrevolver
New member
LOL to u guys above ^. eh TS, so wads the latest update bro? keep us updated man.
growlingsoulpup
New member
We all do machiam football crowd lah. Start Kallang Wave in the court stands, and when the NEA agent arrives we can boo him with the infamous Kallang Horn.
And chant "NEA...kayu"!
haha, now that would be fun
i just realised the first letter NEA sent to me stated my offence committed is non-compoundable and required to attend court.
now i cant even just pay the fine. my offence is under section17(1)f. which i think is littering of "big item". cigarette butt is under section 17(1)a.
now i cant even just pay the fine. my offence is under section17(1)f. which i think is littering of "big item". cigarette butt is under section 17(1)a.