korg pitchblack tuner

When playing in a band, one is said correctly tuned, relative to the rest of the band. Even if they are out of tune to the rest of the world, they will sound good. In this situation, the best tuner you have, will make you in tune, relative to the "correct frequency", but you will end up out of tune to the rest of the band (remember, we use a grand piano in this topic. You can't just retune an grand piano to your guitar).

Cool. I understand what you mean and I'm cool with it. Just needed to clarify - at least when the inexperienced read it up, the train of thought is more easily caught.
 
a piano is much harder to tune, so usually other instruments tune to the piano rather than vice versa.

OffTopic:a quirky fact some might not know is that, some pianos have heaters and thermostat to keep the strings at a constant
temp so at to stay in tune
 
It's strange you should mention jazz musicians...

All of the Jazz musicians I've come across are known to be the most anal retentive people when it comes to being in A440 pitch.

If you're out of tune, you're out of tune...there's no two ways about it.

Invest in a good tuner, it does not have to be expensive; just one which is accurate and tracks relatively well even in noisy conditions eg. stage or jamming sessions.

A good tuner is probably the single most important piece of gear for a musician.
 
but i dont understand y this tuner is even considered for its price cos it only offers up to 1cent accuracy which many other standard tuners offer.

the peterson strobostomp offers true bypass tuning with an accuracy of 0.1cent which makes it 10times more accurate than the pitchblack. more expensive but there are other options in it like having ur own programmed tuning and sweetened tuning.

for me im using a turbo tuner. i opt not to go the strobo cos i dont need a tuner in my setup. only before or during breaks. the turbo tuner has an accuracy of 0.02cents which makes it 5 times more accurate than the strobo but reason y i bought this is cos the tuner tracks the note at a very fast speed b4 it even dies out and makes tuning a breeze. u can even track the notes of a slide on this tuner. i hate waiting for tuners to sense the note that u pick to tune.

http://www.turbo-tuner.com/pages/features.htm
 
It's strange you should mention jazz musicians...

All of the Jazz musicians I've come across are known to be the most anal retentive people when it comes to being in A440 pitch.

If you're out of tune, you're out of tune...there's no two ways about it.
Invest in a good tuner, it does not have to be expensive; just one which is accurate and tracks relatively well even in noisy conditions eg. stage or jamming sessions.

A good tuner is probably the single most important piece of gear for a musician.

Thats why i thank god i don have perfect pitch....i wont be able to watch a live van halen recording otherwise! in early days it is often known that anthony and eddie would just tune to each other....which would simply mean it would be just painful for someone who is anal retentive to hear......
 
Thats why i thank god i don have perfect pitch....i wont be able to watch a live van halen recording otherwise! in early days it is often known that anthony and eddie would just tune to each other....which would simply mean it would be just painful for someone who is anal retentive to hear......

Eh, perfect pitch-ness isn't a thing of preference - its not an "anal retentive" thing... if you got it, good for you, you'll likely surpass most musicians easy - but too bad, you gotta live with other out of tune people and instruments.
 
haha dude, im talking about people who have perfect pitch who cant bear listening to anything that isnt in standard A440 tuning. Its like listening to something that you know "sounds wrong". which may not be the best thing cos musicians should be flexible and bands like van halen just used to tune on the fly rather than bother about being in standard tune, hell, if they were in tune with each other they are ready to go! I remembered reading about it somewhere.

you totally missed my point man. not having perfect pitch also does not mean i do not have relative or "learned pitch" as i call it- I can still tell if others are out of tune or if i am out of tune when i play, although i wont be able to tell you exactly how many semitones like some people with perfect pitch. This comes from the repeated and constant playing with my instrument.

My point is, anal retentive or not, you still gotta be in tune....but it dosent necessarily have to be in standard tuning. Only some people with perfect pitch will insist on that cos to them, it would sound "wrong".
 
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And you missed my point.

I was trying to say that Perfect Pitch isn't an "anal retentive" thing - Its not mere preference. Its actually painful for the PP person to listen to something out of pitch. Its like scratching glass. You made it sound like the PP people were kicking a fuss out of nothing.
 
dude, i think we have different a definition on what anal retentive is....not going to harp on that. Let Souljah be the one to define(if he decides to clarify) since he was the one who made the original post. main thing is people with perfect pitch don have a choice which i already stated earlier in my post before and you agree with that. and yes when i made the EVH analogy i also already kinda made an inference(im not dumb FYI) its actually painful for people with PP when they have to tolerate something which they sounds wrong to them. Which you also mentioned in your post. so thats cool. nobody's missing anything.
 
now back to the topic =]

the turbo tuner looks really sweeet man... is this tuner available in s'pore? on the internet, its just about usd100+.... whats the price in s'pore, if its available in s'pore? =]

btw, there's a stompbox version of the tuner that you are using as well... which might b my preference =]
 
The turbo tuner is overseas only. Until someone brings it in. And its only 109USD till the release date - then it goes back to 199USD.

Order it now if you want the lower price.

Note that it is debatable if you really NEED to be THAT accurate. When the strobo came out, people were already skeptical and what not - 0.1 cent accuracy, bah, who needs it? People have been tuning for ages without it and cut great records, so? However, if it works for you and more importantly, your ears pick it up, why not?
 
the stompbox's retail after pre-order is 129.99 only bro.. the 199 one is the non-stompbox one =]

this is 1 seriously cool tuner... though the korg still looks more attractive, this tuner is quite a steal with its accuracy vs price ratio =P for the uninformed, the famous boss tu-12 that a lot of luthiers use is only a 3sens accuracy apparently. looks like i gotta borrow my tuner to my techie whenever he services my bass now, since my tuner is more accurate than his =P

so has any1 preordered this? i think i'm going to.. it ships on the 16.. but only within the states =\
 
Ahhhh.... I must have been blind. And i thought I scored such an awesome deal.

I've pre-ordered it.

They ship international.

And I'd love to have a TU12 now actually... for my acoustic live performances.
 
haha.. sweeet deal anyhows... so how much do u think they would charge for shipping to this region? how long would it take to get here as well? will there b any tax charges once it reaches our shores? =\
 
Well, check their website? There are links there...

Usually, US to us takes... 1 to 2 weeks.

We only get charged GST if the goods coming in are valued > $400 - any change to this?
 
Korg PitchBlack Tuner has arrived!

Apologies for the long wait, however, we are glad to announce that the KORG PitchBlack Tuner has arrived at City Music. Please see below for details.

KORG PitchBlack Chromatic Pedal Tuner
MSRP: S$100.00
Our Price: S$80.00
What we like about it: 100% True Bypass Output.
For more info visit: http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=pitchblack&category_id=5

The more advanced KORG PitchBlack+ Tuner will only be available next month. Cheers everyone!
 
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