Innovative Practice

[Radius_Vector]

Hi RoRK

Im afraid I disagree with you there. Its true that one can enhance the flavour and character of chords by embellishments, but it is also possible to bring out those embellishments by means of soloing/melody.

You can listen to Shredcow's clip posted earlier - and notice how be brings out the #4 in the 3rd take - for the lydian mode. Same bass line, same drum beat, no fancy chords!

What you say is partially true - It is definitely great to know all the chords in your chord vocabulary, but a lot of great melodies were written and are being written over simple major/minor chords.

However yes - bringing out the feel of a song by soloing 'intelligently' over embellished chords - really an Allan holdsworth thing - a good, but advanced exersise

 

[RoRK]

Duh! I thought there isn't a right or worng way, and hence no need for disagreement as to finding ways to improve oneself with innovative/productive practicing methods.

Anyways, lots of ways out there.

RoRK

 

[Radius_Vector]

Haha cheers bro, but what I meant is exactly that - theres not just one way out!

 

[Taylorboy87]

wanna play out of the box? Use arpeggios! play with the chord changes. Chord progression of G - D - C. Play the triads or the arpeggios with the change of each chord. Variate them, throw some scales in. There ya go!

 

[Radius_Vector]

^^ Could you elaborate a bit more? Arpeggio playing has to be the most cliche thing ever, unless you have a new idea

 

[monk]

arpeggio

hi radius vector

let me tell you a bit about arpeggios

what u need to do is to learn the basic 3 or 5 nature of arpeggios

major
minor
dominant

half dimisshed
diminished

first learn the top 3

learn Cmajor in at least 3 positions
learn Dminor in at least 3 positions
learn G7 in at least 4 positions

after doing that you'll have access to whole fretboard
then you need to map them out against the C major scale
if u ever finish doing that, PM me and ill tell you next steps

 

[Taylorboy87]

cliche thing ever? Can you play (solo) with the changes along the chords using arpeggios and not scales? If its so cliche, why are scales more commonly used? Whatever.

 

[Radius_Vector]

^^ Aiyo. Its not really about whether I can play it or not bro, Im looking for new ideas to spice up my practice and hopefully other people can pick up stuff from this thread. By cliche, I meant that everyone is asked to play arpeggios beyond a certain point. Do you have some interesting ideas, within arpeggios itself? Please share if you do

 

[ShredCow]

If you want to do the whole arppegio thing - yes... you CAN proceed to do it the normal way, solo via arppegiating the backing chords.

It can sound really dry and boring... almost like how bad neoclassical sounds like.

But... but...

I think, a key thing is being able to identify the various colour tones of the backing chords.

E.g. If you have a plain C major chord in the backing - you can imply a C maj7 tonality by either playing the B note or arpeggiating the said chord.

In my books, playing sections of arpeggios and linking them via other "mini" arpeggios is cool and musical.... more musical than running up and down monster 6 string arppegios though I'm sure there's a place for those in some music.

Check out the Frank Gambale youtube line I put up on the People-Guitar section.