Howzabout separate Forums for >25 years for Musicians Wan

RoRK

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Howzabout separate Forums for >25 years for Musicians Wanted/Available?

Seems like there are lots of young people around which is great but it's really difficult for us 'oldies' to form bands. Perhaps a separate forum for us for the Musicians Wanted/Available will be a nice addition.

So how?

RoRK
 
Indeed. I think this is a good idea, then oldies won't have to wade through thousands of posts of 'hey, you cut in front of the Q so now I'm going to beat you up'. :)

No, seriously, it's great that there are so many musicians, young and old, but often the concerns, musical tastes, aspirations and motivations of the different generations can differ radically. I don't recommend a completely seperate site, but maybe just one of the forums we can devote to us older folks.

Perhaps Soft could convert one of the underused forums (such as 'Guitar - People') that gets about 3 posts a month... ;)

Additionally, any chance of listing more than the last 10 posts on the homepage?
 
Unless SOFT is dedicated to finding the next Hansons it's really good that we have a forum for us 'oldies'.

Most of those that made it, overseas that is, did so when they were above 25.

Happy New Year All!!!!!!!!!!

RoRK
 
its a good idea that will probably lead to less juvenile discussion..but eventually all the kids will migrate over and everything will be back to square one...
 
unsane said:
its a good idea that will probably lead to less juvenile discussion..but eventually all the kids will migrate over and everything will be back to square one...

>>it's not like you so-called 'oldies' are not allowed to post...

Off course we can post but we have to wade through all the other posts. If you look at the Musicians Wanted/Available forums many are teenagers. Again nothing wrong and all for the better. But being an 'oldie' it's kinda discouraging going through posts after posts from teenagers.

And no, I don't think teenagers will want to venture into the Over 25 Musicians Wanted/Available Forums unless they specifically want to play with older musicians or want to check out what's happening.

Cheers
RoRK
 
I think it is a good idea, lots of oldie and vintage rockers would sure like to have a fun jam or even a serious jam with similar oldies or vintage genre . We too old to be playing 4 chords punk or the popular elmo thing LOL :)

cheers and Happy New Year
purplehaze3691
 
guys, just put age as a requirement if you want. it's that simple.

i know some people will be offended by the age requirement, but again this is part and parcel of life. i probably wont ever understand the hoohaa about blink 182, sum41 since i'm from the old green day punk rock and even earlier. that's how it is.
 
Fwah... Who deleted ur post?

I know one forum which ppl hang out and is generally above 25... but it's more inane than this one...
 
Just to clarify, I wasn't asking for another WEBSITE, just another forum within this site and specifically one eac for Musicsians Wanted/Avaialble. This SITE seems to be happening and I kinda enjoy it here.
 
let's hear more feedback before i see what can be done about this. :wink:
 
Eh, James, if you are splitting the forum into different sections, make it macam like Sammyboy. Got "MEMBERS" section... fwah...
 
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Don't think there's a need for a separate section. Next thing we'll know, the forum will be divided into multiple age brackets in each section.

As one of the "oldies", I'm encouraged by the large numbers of young musicians who post frequently. It's just sad to see so few of us "oldies" posting. In some other music forums, we get ages like above 50 and 60 posting frequently. The content becomes more mature, and one can get a lot of good stuffs from reading their posts particularly in terms of experience.
 
>>Don't think there's a need for a separate section. Next thing we'll know, >>the forum will be divided into multiple age brackets in each section.

With thinking like yours there would never have been a SOFT Website to begin with. Sriously. Think about it.

Those who agree see a need for a separate forum within SOFT ONLY for the musicians wanted/available forums. Everything else will be the same.

I really don't see any loss but more to gain. I've been in other forums where the onus is to limit the 'noise' and increase the 'signal'. This leads to a more productive experience FOR ALL. Like all forum-based sites, there will come a time when it becomes imperative to splice existing forums in order to better serve the people who visit it.

I doubt that you've tried forming a band using any one of the aforementioned forums on SOFT. If you did, you would find that it would be quite an unproductive experience. There's just too signal in terms of what you're looking for.

'Oldies' will find it hard to play with teenagers and that is true conversely. Teenagers or even those under 25 are most likely still studying and they have different timetables to live to. We, those that are working, will find it easier not ony in terms of musical tastes but also in terms of timing for jamming and other band activities that may come by.

Thus far, no one who has opposed the new forum(s) has not come up with a good a valid reason why it shouldn't be implemented. By good, I mean an unproductive or regressive result. I seriously doubt that will be any.

Like I said, there will be a time when all online forums find it necessary to break up thir existing forums to make the sourced information more easily accessible FOR ALL.

And if there is a need to divide any forum based on age it should be done on an as and when required. Why are you so afraid of change - especially when it is for the better.

Perhaps you should share more of your concerns. And be specific about while you're at it. It's pointless saying no and giving reasons for not wanting a change based on something that may happen, and if it happens, it's probably a good thing too, a long time later. I think that's ridiculous.

>>It's just sad to see so few of us "oldies" posting

Perhaps we have to post together with teenagers. Just look at the post in the Musicians Wanted/Available forums. It's a big forum, I tihnk it's the 6th in terms of number of posts.

From an advertising POV, I think SOFT's advertisers may also like the fact that there is a separate forum for oldies; helping them to form bands. This can only mean more purchases for musical instruments.

Again, unless you can be specific and point out areas where such an idea will be detrimental to SOFT and its members, I suggest ... .

Thank U.
RoRK
 
Hi RoRK, I'm thinking more on the logistics here. This phenomemon you're describing does not just exist within the musicians wanted/available section of the forum but the ENTIRE forum. For us "oldies", the noise is everywhere. Yes, I do get tired looking through the forum, but then that's the majority of the target audience of SOFT. I may not have tried to form a band using the forum section you mentioned, but I've frequented SOFT enough in all other sections since the day SOFT was born and believe me, screening through all the other posts in this forum is just as tiring and "unproductive".

So if we really want to "reduce noise", we really need to do it throughout the entire forum. That means a separate age bracket for each section. Then the entire forum will double in number of sections, making more work for the moderator (ie James), and more fatigue for many users. There will be a segregation of age groups - younger will just click on their sections and "oldies" will click on theirs - nobody is going to click every section looking at every thread. There will be less interactions between the age groups which will be a loss eventually to musicians - since young and the not so young can learn from each other.

The poll James put up already showed that above 25 constitutes only 18% of the community in SOFT. So the new age bracket will get less posts no matter what. Of course, one can argue that splitting up the sections into different ages may increase posts from the above 25 bracket, but I doubt so. I think the only way is for existing members above 25 to post more "age specific and sensitive" threads so as attract more within their age groups to respond.

As for those looking for a band with above 25 years old, there's no harm posting a thread within the "musicians wanted/available" section stating the critiera for age in joining the band. Of course, having an additional section within the musicians/wanted section does not seem to hurt. If there's enough above 25 looking for a band, then perhaps you're right - putting up a separate section may help. But the statistics is already against this.

Perhaps one way is to set up this "above 25 musicians looking for a band" section and monitor it to see how it goes. But then, shutting down a section is more difficult than setting it up (ie if it comes to that eventually). Of course, if logistics is no problem for James, it's Ok for me.

And RoRK, don't get intimidated by negative posts. Conflicting ideas and suggestions are good for this forum! At least keeps us thinking. Keep it coming!!!
 
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