How do we tune?
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Whitestrat
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It works best for me, since my main guitars come with compensated nuts...:mrgreen:
Maybe the article writer never heard of Earvana at that time?
MadWerewolfBoy
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I think these compensated nuts compensate your pressure put onto the 1st 5 frets.
If they really compensated harmonic tones, then by right, the 1st harmonic (base note) would be out. I did some calculations before and by the maths and got a headache. Its really a fundamental music problem and we should blame the genius who divided an octave into 12 notes.. Nothing done to our instruments will make the maths match. Haha
No really, you can tune perfectly to 0.01 cents for 5/7 harmonic tuning but by comparing purely harmonics, it means your base notes are slightly off. If your base notes are totally in very perfect relative tuning, you will hear slight descripencies between ur 5/7 harmonic tuning and there'll be slight beats when they ring together.
Most people can't hear the diff or give a shit and since the 5/7 tuning is one of the easiests and fastest way of tuning up a guitar, I guess its wrong to say its bad cause of its practicality but I wouldn't say its the most accurate reference.
I personally use the 12th fret harmonic and 7th fret note method which is musically mathematically right. 12th fret harmonic is 1st played on the 6th string, then with my right hand i fret the 7th fret of the 5th string (both are the same E, or D in my case) and carry on. 12th fret harmonic of the 3rd string mathes the 8th fret note on the 2nd string. Its a personal preference i wouldn't say its better than the old 5th fret open string tuning, but it does eliminate the problem of the sharped 1st 5 fretted notes for guitars with normal nuts.
If they really compensated harmonic tones, then by right, the 1st harmonic (base note) would be out. I did some calculations before and by the maths and got a headache. Its really a fundamental music problem and we should blame the genius who divided an octave into 12 notes.. Nothing done to our instruments will make the maths match. Haha
No really, you can tune perfectly to 0.01 cents for 5/7 harmonic tuning but by comparing purely harmonics, it means your base notes are slightly off. If your base notes are totally in very perfect relative tuning, you will hear slight descripencies between ur 5/7 harmonic tuning and there'll be slight beats when they ring together.
Most people can't hear the diff or give a shit and since the 5/7 tuning is one of the easiests and fastest way of tuning up a guitar, I guess its wrong to say its bad cause of its practicality but I wouldn't say its the most accurate reference.
I personally use the 12th fret harmonic and 7th fret note method which is musically mathematically right. 12th fret harmonic is 1st played on the 6th string, then with my right hand i fret the 7th fret of the 5th string (both are the same E, or D in my case) and carry on. 12th fret harmonic of the 3rd string mathes the 8th fret note on the 2nd string. Its a personal preference i wouldn't say its better than the old 5th fret open string tuning, but it does eliminate the problem of the sharped 1st 5 fretted notes for guitars with normal nuts.
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Cheez
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I guess the poll will differ depending on whether it is an acoustic or electric guitar tuning. Looks like I'm the only one using a pitch pipe!!!
Or this:
"Gibson's new Powertune System rewrites the laws and frees guitarists from the drudgery of tuning. To play in tune, tell your guitar to tune up for you.
The Powertune System, available as original equipment only on Gibson guitars, is a fully functional, performance-ready, and non-obtrusive automated tuning system. It is operated solely from the guitar, with no external connections or interface from a third-party device, and no need to move your busy fingers from the guitar strings and controls they are already manipulating in the course of your performance. Simply activate your guitar's Master-Control Knob (MCK), strum the strings lightly, and within seconds the Powertune's digital brain and Powerhead tuners work together to put you perfectly in tune. Or to achieve any open or alternate tuning, rotate the MCK to the desired preset, strum, and you're ready to play in Open E, Dropped D, Double Dropped D, DADGAD, Open G, Hendrix Tuning (half-step down), or any of your own custom tunings.
In addition to the Powertune System's many capabilities, it is installed on a genuine Gibson guitar that isn't otherwise modified or compromised in any way. The guitar looks, plays, feels, and sounds exactly like a Gibson USA Les Paul, with all the genuine analog tone, resonance, and touch sensitivity of the world's greatest set-neck electric guitar. It doesn't even weigh discernibly more than a non-Powertune Les Paul model. Physically, the Powertune System is virtually invisible. From the audience's perspective there is nothing but the subtle MCK to distinguish your instrument from any legendary Gibson electric, and when pushed down the MCK functions as a standard Tone control. (Perhaps even more important, tonally the Powertune System is entirely, actually, invisible—it tunes you up, but doesn't change your tone).
A rechargeable battery pack gives you more than 200 tunings, and charges up from the discrete charging unit (included) through a regular 1/4-inch guitar cord. Also, no ugly power jacks are installed in the guitar. (In the event that you are caught out with a low battery, the Powerheads can function as standard tuners for manual tuning.)"
Or this:
"Gibson's new Powertune System rewrites the laws and frees guitarists from the drudgery of tuning. To play in tune, tell your guitar to tune up for you.
The Powertune System, available as original equipment only on Gibson guitars, is a fully functional, performance-ready, and non-obtrusive automated tuning system. It is operated solely from the guitar, with no external connections or interface from a third-party device, and no need to move your busy fingers from the guitar strings and controls they are already manipulating in the course of your performance. Simply activate your guitar's Master-Control Knob (MCK), strum the strings lightly, and within seconds the Powertune's digital brain and Powerhead tuners work together to put you perfectly in tune. Or to achieve any open or alternate tuning, rotate the MCK to the desired preset, strum, and you're ready to play in Open E, Dropped D, Double Dropped D, DADGAD, Open G, Hendrix Tuning (half-step down), or any of your own custom tunings.
In addition to the Powertune System's many capabilities, it is installed on a genuine Gibson guitar that isn't otherwise modified or compromised in any way. The guitar looks, plays, feels, and sounds exactly like a Gibson USA Les Paul, with all the genuine analog tone, resonance, and touch sensitivity of the world's greatest set-neck electric guitar. It doesn't even weigh discernibly more than a non-Powertune Les Paul model. Physically, the Powertune System is virtually invisible. From the audience's perspective there is nothing but the subtle MCK to distinguish your instrument from any legendary Gibson electric, and when pushed down the MCK functions as a standard Tone control. (Perhaps even more important, tonally the Powertune System is entirely, actually, invisible—it tunes you up, but doesn't change your tone).
A rechargeable battery pack gives you more than 200 tunings, and charges up from the discrete charging unit (included) through a regular 1/4-inch guitar cord. Also, no ugly power jacks are installed in the guitar. (In the event that you are caught out with a low battery, the Powerheads can function as standard tuners for manual tuning.)"
Whitestrat
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:mrgreen:
Godspeed64
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Bro.. Its not that it goes out of tune..
But i like to tune from EADGBE to DADGBE to CGCFAD.. Very the tiring man!
MadWerewolfBoy
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Whitestrat:
Maybe you can read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament which gives a clearer picture about the tuning system we use.
Maybe you can read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament which gives a clearer picture about the tuning system we use.
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anyone really GASsed after seeing a self-tuning guitar?
MadWerewolfBoy
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Haha not really, not my kind of technology leh. I mean for me tuning the guitar is part of the fun in playing the guitar. The auto tuning thing would save a lot of time, but then again, I'm still not enticed to fork out loads for the system.
bluesmonkey
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i use ye old 5th fret method. May not be the most accurate, but its the quickest, and normally after a few bends the guitar goes out of tune anyway again. I know, but dont like floyd rose etc etc...
Whitestrat
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I meant the bit where you said it's the tension that's compensated. This is what I don't get...
MadWerewolfBoy
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Whitestrat:
I assumed when you mentioned about the compensated nuts you meant something that worked like the Buzz Feiten tuning system? http://www.buzzfeiten.com/
That's basically a rip off for a filed nut that's closer to bridge which works like intonation adjustments from the saddle (but this time, it's the nut adjustment) to get the intonation right for the first few frets. And I don't think it helps very much as compared to a properly setted-up guitar with a normal nut at the correct height.
I assumed when you mentioned about the compensated nuts you meant something that worked like the Buzz Feiten tuning system? http://www.buzzfeiten.com/
That's basically a rip off for a filed nut that's closer to bridge which works like intonation adjustments from the saddle (but this time, it's the nut adjustment) to get the intonation right for the first few frets. And I don't think it helps very much as compared to a properly setted-up guitar with a normal nut at the correct height.
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for all the tuning fanatics, Planet Waves has the Tru-Strobe tuner in store...
MadWerewolfBoy
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Looks wikkid... Roughly how much is it?
