good recording mics?

[mixcubed]

condenser mic

well in my experience, condenser mic is good and bad situation. depend on what style we are trying to record. the most important thing is MIC PLACEMENT. Ribbon mic is the best way to capture all the texture of guitar sound. you don't have to be loud. royer R121/122, AEA R84 are 2 most common ribbon mic used in almost every guitar session these day. you can use beyer dynamic M160 for Loud amp recording, this mic is cheap and it's good. btw. you can check out www.royerlabs.com and go to their gallery. there's photo session of guitar recording and you can get some idea about what i'm talking about.
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[mikemann]

Of course if your playing sound sucks, then the best recording mic will make your suckiness even more clear......hahaha :lol: :lol:

If the sound engineer sucks at his job......then same thing, you won't sound any better........hahaha :lol: :lol:

If your playing superb tone, an average mic will still capture the most important part of your sound. Don't need those mojo jojo mics, if the sound engineer is good too. This I feel is more important than having premium products.

Remember audio is already pretty advanced back as early as the 50's to 60's. They don't have a fraction of the gizmos we have today, and in the 70's recordings produced are already superb.

So IMO, it's not the equipment, but the person using the equipment, which accounts for most of the end product being what it is.

 

[mixcubed]

i agree with mikemann. good mic would be useless if the material is not good. good mic doesn't create good song. in my experience, good preproduction will help alot improving your sound and your arrangement. wha i mean with pre production is preparing all the material before entering recording process.
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[parablue74]

Good mic is just part of the chain... I hate it when i go to one of those shops in Sim Lim and ask for a mic they can recommend. Their first reply would always be that it's the voice and technique that counts more.. It's like they assume i didn't have that covered.
I believe technique, material, voice, room acoustics are factors in the signal chain, but choosing a mic is still choosing a mic. It's like saying to someone that comes into a car shop asking for a good car to recommend, and the saleman says he has to improve his driving skill first... What has driving skill got to do with choosing a car????
So what has good material got to do with choosing a mic???

 

[teraslasch]

totally agreed.! please reccomend a mic :lol: ..

 

[mikemann]

Good mic is just part of the chain... I hate it when i go to one of those shops in Sim Lim and ask for a mic they can recommend. Their first reply would always be that it's the voice and technique that counts more.. It's like they assume i didn't have that covered.

Maybe it's because they assume you are an average shopper. Being in Sim Lim means, tourists & karoke siow home users. Being on this stereotype, means normally the user knows ziltch on mic usage disapline, most down even know how to mix the right amount of echo into their voice during karoke sessions.

So these sales person likely are protecting their own ass, in case they sell a super sensitive $500 mic to an Ah Beng with cash to flaunt. And the Ah Beng comes back and tell them something like "lousy one, excessive feedback". They will then say "I told you so already, not my fault".

Same as a car salesman, will summ up a hormonally imbalanced young punk that he is in the "Super High Risk" group for getting into an accident. So he will put in a "Super High Premium" insurance coverage, so he covered his own ass, in case the young punk thrashed the car and want to sue the car dealer. The insurance would have covered it all.

 

[bernardgoh]

there's alot of mics in the market and i can say every mics have their own fans. different people have different idea on what sound they like and stuff. personally i record vocals with U87. if not i'll go to RE-20 or 414. depends on the vocalist tone and client requirement. my jobs is just to make the client happy.
i think many people have a misconception that sound engineer is a magicians. many people think that they just can go into studio and just anyhow play and the sound engineer can magically turn them into steve vai or matchbox 20. without proper planning and discussion when doing recording is never a good thing as you as a client would not know what to expect from the people you work with. anyway, i think i'm off topic now. better stop now.
anyway, U87 -vocal
414/sm57 - guitar
451/sm57 - acoustic
that's my preference lor.

 

[mikemann]

Yar......yar..... Mics have sweet spots for diffferent frequencies.

The sound engineer cannot help it if the singer shove the mic an inch inside his mouth and sing. And the singer do not heed the engineer's advise to sing at the right volume, distance and direction. Sometime, it's just a humanly bad habit, we try but cannot correct it right.

 

[bernardgoh]

i guess mikemann is refering to live sound. what i'm saying is more on studio recording. anyway, sound is so subjective. everyone have different opinions in it. i'm just adding my own opinions in the forums to let other to reference it.

 

[Tripper]

The sound engineer cannot help it if the singer shove the mic an inch inside his mouth and sing. And the singer do not heed the engineer's advise to sing at the right volume, distance and direction. Sometime, it's just a humanly bad habit, we try but cannot correct it right.

EXACTLY!

 

[blueprintstudios]

hmm... fancy topic .. interesting stuff ppl use for recordin

 

[Tripper]

hmm... fancy topic .. interesting stuff ppl use for recordin

as interesting and diverse as the music,