Gig Scene In SG: Over-saturated and Overkill?

therippersx

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One may search around the forum here for evidences to support (or dispute) the title statement.

Perhaps, there should be closer cooperation and better coordination between gig organizers so that they will not organize gigs that may clash with each other. This is so that the bands and the organizers do not have to compete over a small pool of dedicated local music supporters.

Also by having at most one gig per weekend, for example, it will create a much more significant and unique gig experience for the local music fan/concert-goer.
 
Agreed. I propose that gig organizers get together and discuss in advance when they intend to hold their events, so that they can minimize clashes and maximize attendance for everyone.

I tried to get something started once, but A level preparations are immensely time-consuming and I can't be involved at the moment.

Good luck guys!
 
for me... im trying to make sure that not only one scene is having shows
but other scene.. metal/ rock scene it's belong to lights out

we can't disagree that they are not good organisers

so yea. im not trying to be the boss or some big shit to take control of gigs in SINGAPORE

weather im good or bad organiser
it's up to you guys to judge

hahah classic... i'll nvr understand what u'r saying.. nevertheless, i respect ur effort dude..

u rock my world GUYrenCE!
 
dude, you must understand that when you organise gigs, you are a hero. not a hero like superman, but a hero like batman.

that means, a hero that is willing to be the man that nobody else is willing to be
 
dude, you must understand that when you organise gigs, you are a hero. not a hero like superman, but a hero like batman.

that means, a hero that is willing to be the man that nobody else is willing to be



yes . i understand my friend
have a nice day ! cheers !
 
i got one idea for you guys.
and that is to gather all the gig organisers, get them to commit to a calendar timing, so gigs wont keep clashing against one another. i realise that a lot of shows keep happening on the same day. get all of them to make a schedule of their future shows, and have someone to do the scheduling, so that maybe at any given point of time at the most there will be 2 shows happening.
alot of the abovementioned problems can be solved by this simple way, if you really think about it.


with regards to what i said beforehand, i think what we need to do is to create a REAL need and demand for shows. having too many shows at any given point of time kills the needs and demand for it. its getting to saturated. almost everyone can do a show nowadays, may it be a free or paying gig.

get the organisers to be ORGANISED themselves in doing shows. create a proper schedule for shows. this will increase attendance, cos the gig goers will have not much choice of which shows to go to. i know that sounded quiet crude, but think abt it: choices are good, but too much choices will lead to the death of demand.


also, quality of shows. the quality of bands. yes, new bands needs platforms as well. but try mixing em up. ive seen shows where at least 90% of the bands playing are "new". where's the crowd drawing factor in that?

ive addressed this issue before on this thread:
http://soft.com.sg/forum/music-kopi-tiam/104813-amplify-singapores-music-industry-whos-me-2.html


if only i was till as active in organising shows as we were back then with the RockstarCollective, i'd have moved forth with these ideas.
but its not to late.
and we need a conscious effort to realise this as show organisers, that BANDS ARE NOT TICKET SELLERS. if u as an organiser is not confident enough about having enough people attending your shows, THEN DON'T DO THE SHOW IN THE FIRST PLACE.

ORGANISING SHOWS IS NOT ABOUT MAKING PROFIT TO POCKET. Profit issue should end at having enough capital to do the next show. Not making thousands of dollars of profit. Most show organisers are not even registered companies to begin with.

You want people to come for your shows? Make sure you have one or two crowd drawing bands. and pay these bands equally. make friends with bands, and not treat them like as if they owe you something just becos you organised a show. ive been on both sides of the fence, as a band and as an organiser. there should be mutual respect. it pays to be nice if you are planning to organise shows for a long haul. success of shows is 50% bands, 50% organiser.

and to the bands, if there are no show offers, THEN ORGANISE YOUR OWN SHOWS. In the early 2000, bands like Anaconda, Dyfectra, Marchtwelve and a few others were not getting enough shows, so we decided, screw it, we'll do our own shows. and thats how the rockstarcollective came about. then we did countless of studio shows (infamous NOVENA SHOWS). whatever money we made, we snowballed it to the next show. Do multiple of mini shows, then do a big one. Then repeat the process again.

my 2 cents worth on the abovenmentioned topic.
 
dude but that doesnt mean you gotta go around telling people you're bruce wayne. but hey, even bruce wayne cant talk properly in the batman movies.
 
dearxarson, everything you said makes sense and in fact I generally agree with you. But thinking from a purely money POV.

Let's say I am one of what seems to be a billion of the small time pay2play gig organisers. This idea comes up, and it involves me standing to lose my easy money.

Seriously it is dirt easy money. 15 bands, 20 tickets, $15 per ticket. Sure can cover costs of rental and earn a profit. Plus if I work something out with the rental place to continuously over 3 months rent it for each friday or saturday, the rates will drop and I will earn even more profit. All this while thinking only about the money, because it is good money. Can support a mildly luxurious student lifestyle.

Are all of these little organisers ready to give this up? Regardless of how many times we can advise bands not to pay so they can play, there will always be those who just HAVE to gig, even though they sound worse than a dying cat. They would pay to play.

I suggest one effective solution would be to dispose of every single small time gig organiser, so that this plan can be put to practice. :cool:
 
i think ive already stated what i need to say

disposing off small time organisers will not solve this
rather, get them organised working together, and a little bit of guidance.
shyam raj has already started something i think.
 
Lol I've been watching many old mafia shows like Scarface and the Godfather, used to simply watching people dispose of any hindering characters.

Yeah Shyamraj does have something going on but still would that be enough? I say no more than half of the gig organisers care about the music more than the money.
 
Personally I think there are way to many soft drinks on sale at the Kopi Tiam.

I think all the soft drinks manufacturers should come together and agree on one drink that they sell to us.

Seriously, think about what you are writing here... this is a free market, if someone wants to organize a show according to a certain concept and people are willing to pay (be it bands or audience) then thats their choice.

At the end of the day, the cream will rise to the top. The bands that have it will draw the crowds/ and score the bigger gigs, while the ego strokers will move on to some new way to make themselves feel important.

Its really simple. If you like a band or group of bands then pay money for their shows, b uy their CD and merch and tell all of your friends how wonderful they are. The band will get more fans/ more shows etc.

If you dont like a band or organizer or whatever then don't go/ tell ppl/ bother. You will feel better for it!

The real problem we have in the scene is not too many gigs with not enough fans. Its too many bands and not enough fans. Everyone is saying support the local music scene and ultimately meaning support my band. The same people will turn up only in time for their set and leave once they are done (ok, I know there are exceptions).
 
The real problem we have in the scene is not too many gigs
with not enough fans. Its too many bands and not enough fans.

Everybody wants to be onstage, even when they don't deserve to be on.

Not many wanna be offstage, even when the ones offstage matters most.
 
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