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Im pretty sure its gonna be way too loud for a jamming studio.....even if its sound proof......its 350 yo and Im sure its gonna be as heavy as hell(weight)
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brundisium
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350w head, can be used for bass already. Or maybe for the testosterone driven "iam made to rock out" and i wanna get deaf guitarist :lol:
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brundisium said:
Haha. True. :lol: Why they don't bring in better amp like jcm 800? I know they got one 1959slp marshall amp. But i don't think anyone will buy a stack. Their stacks has been lying in davis for a long time.
I heard from a guy in swee lee that they are going to bring mesa boogie. Don't know whether it's true a not.
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Unless its some event/production company, no one will buy a full stack for home use. At most its a half stack with the 4 x 12 cab( do know of some guitar player with such setup in hdb flat) which i find its really a overkill
Actually there is a shop in simlim which did bring in mesa amp, but the price is not cheap and local market aint big enough for them to sell much. Not too sure whether are they still holding on to the dealership....
Actually there is a shop in simlim which did bring in mesa amp, but the price is not cheap and local market aint big enough for them to sell much. Not too sure whether are they still holding on to the dealership....
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i used to have a half stack- sold off not because it's too much for a domestic setting, but because i bought another amp... 8)
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Swee lee lost marshall dealership to davis and zildjian to music plaza. I guess they have to fight for other dealership.
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dear friends, i was at Music Plaza today to pick up my pickup (no pun intended) & managed to audition this Yamaha SG700 (sunburst version):
if you don't already know, the Yamaha SG was revered by a certain Mr. Santana before he embraced PRS. when i plugged in this guitar, i had very high expectations & i wasn't disappointed. the set-up was impressive right out of the box & the guitar played very well. the neck is reminiscent of the Les Paul Classic- thick enough but slim enough at the same time. the default humbuckers delivered loads of useful tones in their full/ split personalities. an overall impressive player & very overlooked one in deed.
however, many of us would be in a difficult position purchase-wise after looking at the pice tag: $1,600+ we'd then consider a Gibson SG Special which could be had for about the same price. i like the overall feel of this guitar especially its balance as all the Gibson SGs i tried were neck heavy. i did try the SG 2000 a while back was impressed then too. so the Yamaha SG is indeed a genuine contender in terms of tone, make & playability.
if you don't already know, the Yamaha SG was revered by a certain Mr. Santana before he embraced PRS. when i plugged in this guitar, i had very high expectations & i wasn't disappointed. the set-up was impressive right out of the box & the guitar played very well. the neck is reminiscent of the Les Paul Classic- thick enough but slim enough at the same time. the default humbuckers delivered loads of useful tones in their full/ split personalities. an overall impressive player & very overlooked one in deed.
however, many of us would be in a difficult position purchase-wise after looking at the pice tag: $1,600+ we'd then consider a Gibson SG Special which could be had for about the same price. i like the overall feel of this guitar especially its balance as all the Gibson SGs i tried were neck heavy. i did try the SG 2000 a while back was impressed then too. so the Yamaha SG is indeed a genuine contender in terms of tone, make & playability.
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Hey, Sub have u had the chance to check out the DV 8? Did you eventually buy a flying V?
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that would be the Mustaine signature V yes? nope... i think i've about had it with 'V' shaped guitars, it's a very intimidating design but it's a nuisance when played sitting down. 8)
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Hey subversion,
What does neck heavy means?
Will gibson sue yamaha for copying their SG design? You know, gibson is very famous for suing 8)
What does neck heavy means?
Will gibson sue yamaha for copying their SG design? You know, gibson is very famous for suing 8)
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Althought not directed at me....I'll be nosey and answer the q....
It means that the neck is heavier than the body....therefore when playing you will feel that the neck requires slightly more strength hold it up.
I remember that there is a way to c if your neck too heavy or not....something like using one hand to balance at the 12 fret or something....dun remember exactly what u are supposed to do....perharps some one knows the correct way?
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It means that the neck is heavier than the body....therefore when playing you will feel that the neck requires slightly more strength hold it up.
I remember that there is a way to c if your neck too heavy or not....something like using one hand to balance at the 12 fret or something....dun remember exactly what u are supposed to do....perharps some one knows the correct way?
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metallibeast
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and just to answer your other q probably not...since Yamaha is not really a big competitor of Gibson....but you can never be sure
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Thanks alot beast... but if you stand and play a neck heavy guitar SG, does it matters whether the neck is more heavy than the body?
Yeah... Gibson has not been suing ESP for copying their les paul and SG. But why did gibson sue PRS? ESP's les paul is more identical to Gibson LP but PRS single cut isn't really identical to the les paul at the 1st glance.
Yeah... Gibson has not been suing ESP for copying their les paul and SG. But why did gibson sue PRS? ESP's les paul is more identical to Gibson LP but PRS single cut isn't really identical to the les paul at the 1st glance.
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the people @ Gibson are trembling in their very pants every day when the PRS name is mentioned. for obvious reasons, they have finally met their match when it comes to the standard in guitar making- hail PRS! also, gibson's coffers have seen better days so there has to be a scapegoat & the situation is at it is today- they sued PRS... they should really sue TOKAI instead, their design's a blatant carbon copy. PRS improves on the Les Paul loopholes not copy them... :roll:
i'm of the opinion that PRS efforts in furthering the cause of their business is a deserving reward itself- they used to be nobody, look where they are today. i believe that people like Nick Huber & the late Sid Poole could've made the break, it's all about timing...
anyway, kudos to Beast- that should be the way, offer info as & when the situation necessitates 8) the way to check out overall balance is to hold it by the strap button on the upper body bout, if the neck dips, then it's neck heavy... however, it's a challenge to hold the guitar that way- imagine dealing with a Les Paul with tiny strap buttons... :?
i'm of the opinion that PRS efforts in furthering the cause of their business is a deserving reward itself- they used to be nobody, look where they are today. i believe that people like Nick Huber & the late Sid Poole could've made the break, it's all about timing...
anyway, kudos to Beast- that should be the way, offer info as & when the situation necessitates 8) the way to check out overall balance is to hold it by the strap button on the upper body bout, if the neck dips, then it's neck heavy... however, it's a challenge to hold the guitar that way- imagine dealing with a Les Paul with tiny strap buttons... :?
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So if a guitar is neck heavy, your fretting hand get tired easily?
Actually gibson should be improving on their quality instead of suing other people ass off. I've seen a 2004 gibson les paul quality worst than mine. I couldn't believe it is a gibson.
Actually gibson should be improving on their quality instead of suing other people ass off. I've seen a 2004 gibson les paul quality worst than mine. I couldn't believe it is a gibson.
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yeah, because the fretting hand is trying to hold up the neck while playing. it isn't as severe strapped-on though...
i'm of the opinion that the Gibson name has that snob appeal to it to command more $$$. Guild is as intimidating as the Gibson brand name but nobody's paying attention to it... :roll:
i'm of the opinion that the Gibson name has that snob appeal to it to command more $$$. Guild is as intimidating as the Gibson brand name but nobody's paying attention to it... :roll:
I think most Les Paul copieshave some minor differences in them to set them apart from the orginal.
I believe too that there is a time limit on patents and copyrights in the USA, possibly 50 years. So if the Les Paul design has been around since 1952, it could be that the design has timed out. But I'm not sure if this is true for design as it is for patents and copyrights.
Perhaps any lawyer or law student here can clarify?
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I believe too that there is a time limit on patents and copyrights in the USA, possibly 50 years. So if the Les Paul design has been around since 1952, it could be that the design has timed out. But I'm not sure if this is true for design as it is for patents and copyrights.
Perhaps any lawyer or law student here can clarify?
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Lengthy post, be warned...
patents & copyrights will continue to be effective as long as it is renewed. most of the time, the owner finds it costly to do a subsequent renewal because the profitability of the product has waned. however, the owner will take pain to do so if he finds the product still showing signs of increasing returns. the Les Paul's design is a perfect example, compared to recent expiry of Ibanez's Edge/ Lo-pro edge trem design.
the legal boundary of this suit is based on the registration within the jurisdiction, meaning, gibson can sue PRS' socks off because they are both operating within the same boundary (ie USA) where the LP design is a registered intellectual property, one protected by the court of law. gibson had successfully proven in court that there were design infringements, the basis of which was that the PRS singlecut was a direct attempt to copy the distinctive design originated by gibson. on this merit, gibson was victorious but the court, in passing, cautioned that the single cut design isn't entirely unique in this respect. and we all know that Fender & others before him (Bigsby & others...) were dabbling with the singlecut solidbody design even before Gibson's emergence in this market... with me so far?
i have a brief follow up on this matter: PRS is pursuing the matter because they are confidant that their appeal would pull through. the onus now is on them to prove that although there were marked similarities, players can differentiate between a Les Paul & the PRS Singlecut without any difficulties. i can say that it's pretty much a done deal. any enthusiasts can even tell these guitars apart with the headstock covered, yes? because it's DIFFERENT, that's all there is to it.
the design aspects aside, i see the bigger picture here: Gibson isn't about to let their coffers be plundered by a geek luthier who's fast carving out a name for himself. it'll be an uphill battle should gibson neglect the Les Paul & embark on a new niche design for themselves, it's a self-defeating process since the LP is already an established design in the guitar industry. :roll: it seems that i'm an advocate for PRS eh? but it's a twofold effect, all this legal affair would force gibson to innovate & keep up their quality control, which is sadly on the decline with reference to the off-the-shelf guitars. without gibson, there won't be a PRS...
patents & copyrights will continue to be effective as long as it is renewed. most of the time, the owner finds it costly to do a subsequent renewal because the profitability of the product has waned. however, the owner will take pain to do so if he finds the product still showing signs of increasing returns. the Les Paul's design is a perfect example, compared to recent expiry of Ibanez's Edge/ Lo-pro edge trem design.
the legal boundary of this suit is based on the registration within the jurisdiction, meaning, gibson can sue PRS' socks off because they are both operating within the same boundary (ie USA) where the LP design is a registered intellectual property, one protected by the court of law. gibson had successfully proven in court that there were design infringements, the basis of which was that the PRS singlecut was a direct attempt to copy the distinctive design originated by gibson. on this merit, gibson was victorious but the court, in passing, cautioned that the single cut design isn't entirely unique in this respect. and we all know that Fender & others before him (Bigsby & others...) were dabbling with the singlecut solidbody design even before Gibson's emergence in this market... with me so far?
i have a brief follow up on this matter: PRS is pursuing the matter because they are confidant that their appeal would pull through. the onus now is on them to prove that although there were marked similarities, players can differentiate between a Les Paul & the PRS Singlecut without any difficulties. i can say that it's pretty much a done deal. any enthusiasts can even tell these guitars apart with the headstock covered, yes? because it's DIFFERENT, that's all there is to it.
the design aspects aside, i see the bigger picture here: Gibson isn't about to let their coffers be plundered by a geek luthier who's fast carving out a name for himself. it'll be an uphill battle should gibson neglect the Les Paul & embark on a new niche design for themselves, it's a self-defeating process since the LP is already an established design in the guitar industry. :roll: it seems that i'm an advocate for PRS eh? but it's a twofold effect, all this legal affair would force gibson to innovate & keep up their quality control, which is sadly on the decline with reference to the off-the-shelf guitars. without gibson, there won't be a PRS...
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Regarding the Fender Japan stuffs that luthermusic brings in...
Sweelee can bring in those Made In America Fender stuffs ... but he has no control over anyone importing any other stuffs?
Fender might have appointed Swee Lee as the sole distributor for American Fender products but it should not affect anyone else in the market that imports alternatives to these very expensive high-end MIA stuffs.
Let's say I open a shop like luthermusic. And those Japanese Fender stuffs that I import, i claim they are my personal collection. So what is wrong bout selling "my own collection" of Fender Jap Strats? :x
What say you? :?
Regarding the Fender Japan stuffs that luthermusic brings in...
Sweelee can bring in those Made In America Fender stuffs ... but he has no control over anyone importing any other stuffs?
Fender might have appointed Swee Lee as the sole distributor for American Fender products but it should not affect anyone else in the market that imports alternatives to these very expensive high-end MIA stuffs.
Let's say I open a shop like luthermusic. And those Japanese Fender stuffs that I import, i claim they are my personal collection. So what is wrong bout selling "my own collection" of Fender Jap Strats? :x
What say you? :?
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