edwards guitars made in china

[guitarsan]

playing the devil's advocate here...

I've seen ppl on other forums wanting to sell their edwards just cuz its not MIJ.
Thats plain dumb if you ask me.

Well, time will tell and soon we will see.

Most people don't admit their prejudices for MIC products openly. And kudos to them, they will justify their position with rational and thoughtful reasons. However, humans are emotional and illogical creatures after all, and who knows deep down there is a niggling discomfort or resentment knowing their favourite Edwards is actually (yikes!) MIC. So after reading this thread, don't be surprised some people will say they are not "bonding" with their Edwards and regrettably have to let it go.....heehee!

 

[backagain]

MIJ or MIC

I have two Edwards and they have stickers showing Made In Japan, one of them has a QC check list in Japanese. One I got it from Davis and the other from Japan. I love both of them.Good quality,good tone and good feel.No need to change pickups.
I fully agree with some of you guys that IT'S ALL IN THE MIND.
Recently, one guy came to my house with a DS1 MIJ and claimed that it sounds better than MIT. I plugged both using a Gibson LP and Carvin legacy amp and play both behind his back and he could not tell the difference. IT'S ALL IN THE MIND.

 

[Plastic]

MIC got melamine..

 

[Phil]

I've seen ppl on other forums wanting to sell their edwards just cuz its not MIJ.
Thats plain dumb if you ask me.

Which forum? I want to pick up some bargain deals!

 

[iliLIGHTili]

Which forum? I want to pick up some bargain deals!

Haha. Good idea!!!

 

[Impromptu]

It is all in the mind. A couple months back, my friend did an experiment for his project to test human perception and mentality.

He filled 2 tubs with water - 1 with rain water and the other with tap water. He purposely swap the labeling of the tubs i.e. the one with rain water is labeled as tap water and vice versa.

Later he got his subjects to wash their hand in both tubs and asked them which one is cleaner. 100% of his subjects testify that the tub labeled with tap water to be cleaner than the other.

Funny? Like I alway say, "it is all in the mind".

maybe bucket to keep the rain water is made in Japan, and the bucket to keep the tap water is made in China. Thus the effect. So MIJ still win.

 

[bedokkids]

there is always a different.

as you get more personal with it...somehow or rather those short-comings will pop out.

why should i pay an MIC guitar for the price of an MIJ?

why don edward market it as MIC instead?

think along these line pals..

honestly i don believe in the working ethic of PRC.

quote an example,
looks at those local food cooked by PRC in food court whatever.
it's totally crap shit.

 

[confused]

i agree.why not sell it at mic price.what if suddenly found out that the prses and gibbys you all have spend are partly made mic?btw is all the ibanez prestige fully mij?

 

[tubescreamer]

i agree.why not sell it at mic price.what if suddenly found out that the prses and gibbys you all have spend are partly made mic?btw is all the ibanez prestige fully mij?

Bro, there isn't a 'MIC Price' or an 'MIJ Price'.

Pricing is based on demand and supply factors, not the country of origin, although this could in turn affect the DD and SS figures.

For instance, Lakland Skyline basses are now Indonesian in origin, but still cost more than $1000. You have to take into account the 'value added' features such as pickups, hardware, etc etc.

Edwards guitars have Seymour Duncan pickups stock, which work out to at least $250 for a pair, and they are still set up in Japan.

I guess we have to be pragmatic at the end of the day - If it feels good, sounds good, and you're happy with it, who cares where it originates from?

 

[Blodstyre]

MIJ porn > MIC porn

MIC the girls neber shave armpits one...... ^_^ hurr hurr hurr




~meh~

 

[bedokkids]

if it's really MIC,

i think it will be better to put my money down on epiphone,

look at what epi did,

"guitar world" mag put a full 3 to 5 articles on their new plant in shandong, china.

which assured buyer like us on that the epi in our hands are of consisten quality.

 

[shinobi]

the causality is all screwed up. there is a greater demand for MIJ guitars because they are of good quality. this is NOT the same as saying that guitars are of good quality because they are MIJ. the word 'because' is a vector.

the edwards factory in china is owned by edwards. it is not outsourced. the 'made in' tag goes as far as the country of origin of the company. no further than that.

you don't have to go as far as saying that a guitar made in JAPAN must be assembled in JAPAN, built in JAPAN by a JAPANESE person using wood from a tree grown in JAPAN before it is considered MIJ.

by the same argument you could say that A LOT of MIA stuff are not actually made in USA.

 

[shinobi]

if it's really MIC,

i think it will be better to put my money down on epiphone,

look at what epi did,

"guitar world" mag put a full 3 to 5 articles on their new plant in shandong, china.

which assured buyer like us on that the epi in our hands are of consisten quality.

again, we are missing the point that the quality of a guitar depends on the company.

epiphone and gibson are the perfect COUNTER example

 

[asdf]

if it's really MIC,

i think it will be better to put my money down on epiphone,

look at what epi did,

"guitar world" mag put a full 3 to 5 articles on their new plant in shandong, china.

which assured buyer like us on that the epi in our hands are of consisten quality.

is edwards' quality inconsistent?

 

[edyeo123]

i dont think the edwards has inconsistent qc. It's quite a hefty price to pay for one.

 

[dioswkg]

They are smart.
They did not have MIC on their guitars cos they know that potential buyers will have the thinking that MIC guitar should be cheap and not good.

Some people bought edwards and willing to pay high sums cos they thought it is MIJ and not because the guitar worth that much $.

If there is MIC anywhere on the guitars, people will go "what?! MIC guitar cost that much?!"

But they forgot that edwards have their own factory in China unlike many MIC guitars, which oem them to factory in china. With your own factory, you control everything from employing of workers to the stuff that goes into making the guitar.

Thus if it is MIC or Made in India, as long the QC is top notch, nothing to worry.

 

[bedokkids]

is edwards' quality inconsistent?

do you own an MIJ edwards before?

 

[LadyInTears]

actually. this is kinda good publicity, people will realise that thought its mic technically, it has the qc of mij, so people will think better of china made stuff, but of course, it kinda puts me off knowing that its actually not mij..

 

[MrBukka]

Oh well guys i guess some people may just feel cheated over this fact that edwards guitar may not be totally MIJ which is understandable but it is still imho an undeniable fact that they really make good guitars with a high consistency rate and with killer tone, i am sure many many users around the world can testify to that. Thus i still feel that we should still give them the due respect and not put them down just because they may not be 100% japanese.

Of course if one is too uptight about it, there is always the original gibson route. Afterall Edwards are copies of original design but damn good ones and a much affordable alternative, so i guess we cant ask for too much can we keke.

 

[Phil]

Well, I guess everything that can be said has been said.

I apologise for opening this...