distortion

[matt-muser]

hey guys,
comparing fab metal and ds-1, which is a better choice?

 

[gibbytones]

personally i would prefer the ds-1.

but you should try both out.
and choose for yourself.
trying is free.

 

[nkubi87]

how bout any pedals dat have really heavy sounds, like the palm muting part is really heavy. how is the ds-1 btw?

 

[ShredCow]

THE od/distortion pedal for me:

http://blackstoneappliances.com/

Ridiculously good live, RIDICULOUSLY good.


Sorry, I had to. :roll:

 

[KennethC]

Then what are your screwdrivers to you Dan? Hmm thought you used them as OD singly, and distortion for chugging when they're stacked. Don;t they beat the mosfet together? Haha i'm getting a screwdriver. and a mayo.

 

[neuro182]

J&H does the job for me

 

[steel]

So far MT2 has one of the best heavy metal sound!!

 

[dric]

Sorry, I had to. :roll:

LOL.

I'd say the JH-1 would be a good pedal to get for a start.

Although I still like my J&H best.

Getting a screddy soon too!!!

 

[ShredCow]

Then what are your screwdrivers to you Dan? Hmm thought you used them as OD singly, and distortion for chugging when they're stacked. Don;t they beat the mosfet together? Haha i'm getting a screwdriver. and a mayo.

The Screwdriver is my huge-thick-sounding-to-go dirt pedal. Stacked, hahahahaha.... Its just that tone in my head, nails it to a T. Both are different though.

Interesting thing , Blackstone orange channel into the Screwdriver is like a treble booster... the red channel... oh man oh man...

But anyway... the blackstone is just way way way more dynamic and its more open sounidng. I mean, picking dynamics NEVER played such a big part in my playing, just makes you meld with your instrument that much better.

 

[KennethC]

ah, so why doesn't anyone bring in the blackstone mosfet? Sigh. another one of those pedals that cost a bomb i guess?

ka-ching!!

 

[ShredCow]

ah, so why doesn't anyone bring in the blackstone mosfet? Sigh. another one of those pedals that cost a bomb i guess?

ka-ching!!

Blackstone Appliances has no dealers... you order from them direct.

Its 225USD for one. Without shipping.

Anyway, guitarists prefer the traditional tubescreamer tone lah. Been that way, will always be that way.

 

[KennethC]

I know Malcolm doesn't like the tubescreamer tone! :smt020

I quite like more transparent sounding OD/Dist pedals, sometimes the mid-hump makes the sound a lil bit muddy. Of course, that could be due to a variety of factors e.g. pickups, guit, amp, cables even. some like it, some don;t. I'm still holding on to my randolf-modded Ts9, trying to see how I can best use it in my rig.

 

[gsonique]

btw ...when you play loud ...the mid hump is more of a blessing than a curse....will tame the spykes ...modded TS type will cure heaps as well !!

 

[ShredCow]

I quite like more transparent sounding OD/Dist pedals, sometimes the mid-hump makes the sound a lil bit muddy.

You like transparent? The Blackstone is for you. :twisted: Its red channel has a mid hump though, mild on, but you can dial it out. Its only eq control is a mid CUT control . Hehe.

 

[ShredCow]

btw ...when you play loud ...the mid hump is more of a blessing than a curse....will tame the spykes ...modded TS type will cure heaps as well !!

but but but but but....
I want the spikes... tee hee hee~

Kill them ears, split them eardrums!

 

[gsonique]

dog eat bone ...man eat meat :lol:

 

[KennethC]

goose...true...my friend who gigs tells me that fatter tones with heavier mids are less likely to get lost in the mix as compared to shrills. I was discussing this with him, making reference to Rene of the unXpected band. His tones are quite mid-heavy with not a whole lot of defn, imho. What really works in a live setting then? Both for rhythm distortion (to make sure this is relevant to the thread hehe) and solos?

You're saying Ts9 modded cures heaps...of? spikes?

 

[ShredCow]

goose...true...my friend who gigs tells me that fatter tones with heavier mids are less likely to get lost in the mix as compared to shrills. I was discussing this with him, making reference to Rene of the unXpected band. His tones are quite mid-heavy with not a whole lot of defn, imho. What really works in a live setting then? Both for rhythm distortion (to make sure this is relevant to the thread hehe) and solos?

*sigh*
Loss of defination. Worth it? No way. I rather play alone than to have to boost what mids and lose defination.

Anyway, live, my Blackstone cuts with no issues, and I cut the mids on it too. Heh.

Note: I use humbuckers. Single coils, different.

 

[gsonique]

Using a bridge pu does give that quacky mids ...on any pedal ya !!
Most dirt pedals have a tone knob to tame the spikes or the hump. F'more stock dirt pedals have a sort of frequency conditioner at the input usually by a smaller value cap (thus the sweet "vintage tone" ).
A mod on the input and few more other tweaks will give you a much better voiced pedal and will bring out the natural mids of your guitar.
Use of amp tone stack is crucial and remember high frequency always seems louder, so tame it !!

As for the Blackstone type pedal (stacked transistor) has a large input cap(sometimes none) followed by a very small cap after the first boost (transistor) stage, thus losing lots of its mids (so called transparent) but retaining the highs and "new" lows are created due to the extreme transistor gain !!

I hope i make sense here !! :lol:

 

[matt-muser]

is behringer good compared to boss?