China Milk powder issues

[Cheez]

Dime, the party most at fault is Sanlu - the one implicated in the infant deaths. There are obvious cover ups - mainly from them.

Guitarcritic, I have 3 children. All except my youngest drank China milk since they were 1. And it was one of the brands implicated (though not Sanlu). My youngest is currently 1 and therefore spared (breastfeeding save a lot of problems). So...yes, I do understanding how the people here feel, and yes, I am concerned, and yes, I am angry. But remember one thing - people in the rest of world has a choice. We who live in China (esp in rural and semi-rural areas) DON'T have a choice (actually not true - we do have a choice of not drinking milk, but then, none of us knew about the adulteration until recently).

So sweeping statements do hurt us who lives here and have little or no choice. I agree that there's no excuse. But saying not to buy China products does nothing, changes nothing, and hurts the common people. Even I have a choice - of leaving China if I'm unhappy about it. The people here are born here and they can't leave. This is their life. The world is unhappy - yes. But they are not as unhappy as us living here with our children drinking the milk for years without knowing it.

However, I refuse to believe China will not change. Otherwise I would have left long ago. My first 2 years here - I was terribly disillusioned and complained about everything I saw. Then I realised that it's not fair - it's not fair to the people here who are stuck in the system. I can leave - they can't. So I stop complaining. One thing I've learned is this - any form of political (or similar) pressures forcing China to change will amount to nothing. It will only backfire as China is likely to retaliate. Their fault? No...it's the socio-cultural-political situation that people outside China will never understand. They are changing. But as I said - they will do it their way. And yes, I believe they will improve, and they are. China is not going to change in 1 day. This tainted milk saga is a good lesson for them. A few years ago, they would have hidden it so well that nobody in the world will ever find out ..The very fact that media had so much coverage shows that China is serious the matter and had changed.

So...I'm hopeful.

 

[guitarcritic]

This milk thingy is a VERY GOOD lesson indeed, and to add on .. sorta say China gotta buck up and stop cheating it's own people and the world. There are many other countries which as poor as them and even worse than them but they don't kill people by adding posions into food stuffs, and it's not fair to do that. Yes there;s nothing they can do but the people in China gotta protest so that the Govt will do something about it, like whichever company do this kinda thing will be puinished severely, and these people will stop doing such cruelty...

About boycotting China products, i believe there's no need for someone to bug the world from buying China Products, coz automatically, they will put on hold the shipments and stocks, or under investigation or even destroy them, and get refund and stuff..it's just too bad that they do something stupid and the world finds out. Moral of this, never cheat, no matter what the truth will be revealed...one day.

 

[fgl]

Besides the now milk issue, I believe Paganified also posted vids on their inhuman fur farming methods (Peta vid) and also their bear farming activities. This is all aside from their human rights records of course.

Having travelled widely and see & done alot, I have come to accept the fact that some cultures are too engrained in their lifestyles and will inevitably resist change.

Its just so sad that some human & animals have to suffer as a consequence of the guilty parties, irrespective of their nationality, race, creed or culture.

 

[mrekoj]

Apparently it happened as early as March but the info was surpressed ...

I wonder what kinda milk the competitors drank during their stay there.

it's harder to kill a adult with the same milk
just like u need more dosage of poison to kill a healthy adult

 

[THOA]

They made one step forward economically and two steps back socially. They have strong economics, but its this kind of incidents basically kept them from really becoming strong as a nation. They will forever be "condemned" to second or third class in the global eyes if keep putting themselves in the spotlight, no matter how strong their economics are.

Kudos to Cheez for having hopes, though. I do believe that he is in the right position to have more say than a lot of us. But it would perhaps take a couple of generations at least for social mentality to change. For the hopeful, all they can do is wait. In the meantime, though, the critics are not without a point to criticize either.

 

[robboster]

You can't exactly say China is poor though, it's just that their government chooses to focus the money into money making places like Bei Jing and Shang Hai. This in turn causes the people of the provinces to suffer.

But that's how most of the governments are. All about the c@$h.

 

[fiqthefallen]

arent they still communist? whatever happened to "common ownership"...??

 

[mus]

Now, lagi teruk!

Lion cub, baby orangutans sick from Chinese milk

 

[snuffleupagus]

ironically, pseudo-capitalism is to blame in these cases.

Lets not blame the Chinese as a whole la, its always the few negative examples that spoil their reputation. EVERY COUNTRY is guilty of breeding assholes.

 

[lucadia]

actually i don't see the need for NTUC or any stores withdrawing the M&M and white rabbit candy(no i'm not crazy) i mean seriously. go to the AVA website they will tell you that the melamine level in these product are extremely low. You practically have to eat these crap every hour of ever day to have ANY health effects (caused by melamine, obesity doesn't count)

They even have stats on how much melamine you can take per day for you entire life without killing yourself.

i think the withdrawal is nothing but a pre-caution from the government to prevent aunties running around scared shitless.

 

[robboster]

caused by melamine, obesity doesn't count)

Lol... I remember that I used to be fat when I was a little kid cos I devoured like 1 pack of that stuff a day...

 

[BrainFailure]

actually i don't see the need for NTUC or any stores withdrawing the M&M and white rabbit candy(no i'm not crazy) i mean seriously. go to the AVA website they will tell you that the melamine level in these product are extremely low. You practically have to eat these crap every hour of ever day to have ANY health effects (caused by melamine, obesity doesn't count)

They even have stats on how much melamine you can take per day for you entire life without killing yourself.

i think the withdrawal is nothing but a pre-caution from the government to prevent aunties running around scared shitless.

ppl tend to over-react nowadays as we all know.

 

[widdly]

actually i don't see the need for NTUC or any stores withdrawing the M&M and white rabbit candy(no i'm not crazy) i mean seriously. go to the AVA website they will tell you that the melamine level in these product are extremely low. You practically have to eat these crap every hour of ever day to have ANY health effects (caused by melamine, obesity doesn't count)

They even have stats on how much melamine you can take per day for you entire life without killing yourself.

i think the withdrawal is nothing but a pre-caution from the government to prevent aunties running around scared shitless.

Yeah kidney stones will not kill you....but I hear they can be pretty painful. Imagine pissing a pebble. Some people reckon it's as painful as child birth.