bought a pedal, now what??

haha... i'm surprised that no one pop in here and ask you to mod your DS1! amazing.....

Play with the DS1 first. Learn some music, learn some technique like palm muting and all those "Distortion Necessary" techniques and then see what you're missing.

A delay pedal is almost always the next pedal to get. The Ibanez DE7 is a nice pedal and has got a nice price tag as well. Its got its limitations but its a fine pedal for the price.
 
heheh,... eh, mod your ds1! :)

Well, no lah, you should follow edder's advice, play with it first. Get your ears tuned to tone first before you mod. ;)

Also, the I 2nd the DE7. very good pedal.
 
i've a question. you guys recommend DE7, other than preference wise. i thought every pedal is build with a slight difference between the tone?

although they are under the same name DE7. so if you guys recommend DE7, but maybe when someone tested it out. the pedal's tone quality is lousier from other DE7. so can we really stand by the comment that we gave to fellow softies?
 
The QC isn't that bad for the tonelok.

And the difference due to tolerances of resistors, caps and what not... well, you need really good ears. :)

Unless you talking abt EH pedals where reliability is known to be crap and every user has a different say depending on whether their EH craps out on them.
 
all pedals have components - resistors, capacitors - of varying tolerances, so yes, the pedals may differ from unit to unit. Depending on manufacturer to manufacturer, they may choose to use higher/lower quality parts, which may in turn may bring out slight differences in sound. (if the parts used are high quality parts, you may not even notice it from pedal to pedal.)

this would apply the same for amps and guitar electronics as well.

however, the design of the circuit itself remains largely the same. In general, the sound of the effect does not deviate much because of the design.

yes you may be right that one DE7 may not be as good as the other DE7.

imo i feel guitars have more deviance than say pedals or amps, largely because guitars are made not only of electronics, but also of wood. I believe the qualities of a piece wood cannot be measured. Even if you get the most exotic Honduras Mahogany or -insert your favourite wood here-, there's a chance that that piece of wood is dead wood - it doesn't sound that good, doesn't make the guitar have the qualities it's supposed to bring out.

experts here, correct me if i'm wrong. :p i'm just a part time electronics newbie.
 
WOW! thor.. you really gave me an enriching lesson there. thanks!

EH = electro harmonix. hmm.. better check this out at the stickies.
 
Guitar electronics have come a LONG way since the beginning of notorious Fuzz Face which used inconsistant Germanium transistors.

Current batch of pedals from the bigger manufacturers SHOULD NOT and CANNOT have batch to batch differences in tone or sound due to parts tolerance issue. If they do... sue them :lol:

If its from boutique builders esp for traditional germanium fuzz faces, I'd say there'd still be batch to batch differences.

As for DE7, I'll seriously be hard press to find any "TONAL" difference. Quality and reliability of parts is another matter but tonal... I don't think so. The Tonelok series uses a crappy little momentary switch for on/off and that is its achilles heel. Other than that I like the way Ibanez made that 7 series of pedals. Much better than the 5 series.
 
just to let you all see what my gear looks like...here it is

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RZ2W3SGR
[url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RZ2W3SGR[/url]
 
shredcow, how do i modify the ds-1?? not that i wanna modify now (im new at this right :roll: ) im just curious..

and yeah, i was thinking of getting the delay pedal but stuck between digitech and ibanez and boss.

arrgh focus focus..
 
Ah, just a few threads down there is a discussion on MIJ DS-1 You can read abt modifications there.

I have a DD3 and a DE7.
the DD3 is very precise and tweakable. The delays are bright and spanking, which might be good or bad. Its digital so yeah, dont expect analog styled stuff. easier to control even on higher settings, does not mud up your playing easily.
DE7 is warm and very analog sounding Echo. A bit hard to control (can mud up if not careful) because you cannot adjust the amt of echo but it is quality echo for the price. it can do delay too but its average, rather dull delay. Up to 2.6 secs of delay.

The DE7 is the cheapest of the lot though.
 
fenderrules said:
shredcow, how do i modify the ds-1?? not that i wanna modify now (im new at this right :roll: ) im just curious..

and yeah, i was thinking of getting the delay pedal but stuck between digitech and ibanez and boss.

arrgh focus focus..

What's the point of talking about it on an internet forum and reading all about it from all the 'experts' here? Get your ass down to Swee Lee and say that you are buying your virgin DELAY pedal to the (hopefully) helpful retail assistant. Try the Digitech Digidelay, Ibanez DE-7 and Boss DD-whatever...

Try all 3 back-to-back and after all, you are playing it, not us. If it's within your budget, buy it. If not, rub your chin vigourously and nod to the (hopefully, still) helpful retail assistant and say, "They are okay lah. I'll think about it..." and walk away. Slowly.

Chinese New Year is one month away. If not, borrow $ first and pay back by instalments.

Your own ears are the expert ears. Get something you like. You might not like it in the future but as long as you like it now, what the fu-ck man...
 
Cool it a little man.. Sounds like a good idea what u suggested...

But dun have to use harsh words.
 
I was told that the a modded DS-1 is good enough.
Any it looks good to me also. I almost bought a DS-1 last month
Good choice
 
jony said:
Cool it a little man.. Sounds like a good idea what u suggested...

But dun have to use harsh words.

Er, what harsh words, doode?

If you are referring to speech patterns, yesshhh, like edder, I speak like that on a daily basis. If you are referring to so-called vulgarities (which is a moot point cuz they are just words), yesshhh, like edder, I speak like that on a daily basis.
 
AgingYouth said:
What's the point of talking about it on an internet forum and reading all about it from all the 'experts' here? Get your ass down to Swee Lee and say that you are buying your virgin DELAY pedal to the (hopefully) helpful retail assistant. Try the Digitech Digidelay, Ibanez DE-7 and Boss DD-whatever...

I think you have to be careful with advice like that.

I am glad that when I was a noob, I had advice like that that helped me save the money I had worked hard to save up. How I mean, why take the more expensive weird looking S520EX with Edge trem when i could get a more less expensive, more normal/metal looking RG with a TRS? Because people advised me the TRS was poor trem.

True true, let your ears decide, but experience will help a lot too. Its always the case of, great it sounds great! Then 2 mths later, you sell it off because it doesn't cut it no more. In the case of delay pedals, who knows? Digital sounds today, analog tomorrow, or vice versa. At least we help to point it out first, now.
 
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