Bogner Alchemist Discussion

MrBukka

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Hi guys, i just recently saw and tested the bogner alchemist, i found that it is a good sounding and versatile amp that possesses bogner's classic tonES, and not forgetting the pretty economical price. Read many reviews and forums and i have a general idea of it, generally speaking alot of people r singing praises abt it.

Just wanna see what the softies think abt this amp, and whether it is worth a small fortune for it, cheers ! :mrgreen:
 
I have yet to test it out. But whilst I was at city music. I was thinking if I should. Its quite big (im used to small combos). Will definitely make my way down again to try em out.
 
Haha yes sub!!! The brown sound which i am sure i heard as well! But the coolest thing i found is that i can get fendery cleans as well, and with the boost it sounded like a marshally clean.....pretty amazing imo.

Hmmm i am actually pretty tempted to get it since my 2X12 cab is comin soon, the price is pretty nice as well, not exactly budget or cheap, but for what u get, i think it is pretty reasonable......but i have another agenda in mind thats making me resist.
 
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Hehe I am considering of getting one (40W head and a 2X12 cabinet) myself . But is it too loud to be used in a HDB Flat ???
 
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I just got my Alchemist head and matching 2x12 cab. It's a very good deal, imo. The cleans are pretty pristine, and with the flick of the deep switch and adjustment of the mids knob, you can get your desired Fender, Vox and Marshall cleans on the 40W channel. Headroom is pretty good on the 40W channel but I haven't cranked it past 1pm so I can't say for certain. The 20W breaks up sooner, of course, and the gain on this channel also has more compression going on. I like the gain channels on both 20W and 40W, tho the 40W does sound a little more open. I like the onboard delay and reverb efx - they really give that extra oomph in tonality that I'm looking for. My mum wasn't too happy when she saw the Alchemist rig in my room, but once I played it for her, she was convinced that it was a great buy. Hey, sometimes neutral observers can give you useful feedback too. :)

As mentioned by Bukka, versatility is a key differentiator for the Alchemist. The EQ knobs are very sensitive, and you can really use them to dial in a whole variety of tones, easily. There's a manual that gives you suggested knob settings for a whole bunch of popular tones, and I'd say they get you pretty close. Then you can adjust to taste. The boost channel gives a nice fat midrange boost, that pushes the amps overdrive into "searing lead" mode. V nice sustain with this amp. The amp also works well with both single coils n humbuckers, and retains the tonal qualities of individual guitars.

The build also seems very decent, despite all the MIC overhang. Doesn't feel particularly cheap, but of course I can see how it could be improved aesthetically. At least it doesn't say "Bogner by Line 6" :p As a friend put it, "too bad for Line 6 that this amp doesn't say Line 6 on the front". Overall, the Alchemist is great value for money.
 
... i can get fendery cleans as well, and with the boost it sounded like a marshally clean.....pretty amazing imo.

i hear lots of Marshall/ VOX clean inclinations compared to Fender (in fact, i don't hear any of this). this amp would be something i love buying because the drive channel sounds great with a drive-type booster but i don't see the point of buying a Marshall-like amp when i already own a Marshall 8-)
 
...and there's still no Fender tones to be had. i tried single coils/ humbuckers/ a semi-hollow guitar with this amp.
 
...it can be fenderish without the deep engaged ...since the deep possibly a negative feedback loop...giving that Marshall'ish.
 
Is it just me or does anyone find the youtube clips sound more like a boogie than a marshall on the dirt channel?

The cleans are very nice, but every plays it with the reverb on!!! I would like to hear it without any reverb.
 
Aha goose, that i agree, i seem to get the marshall tone with the deep switch engaged, a fatter tone imo.....although i managed to dial in some vox ones as well (have a pretty gd idea on the vox sound since i have one). Fender cleans can be achieved but perhaps with abit of tweaking, i must say it sounds more like a hot rod fenderish sound than say a fender twin or bassman clean.....crunch channel has alot of marshall tones in it imo, but take nothing away from bogner, cause i have tried the ecstacy before and the crunch is really out of this world, and the alchemist gets real close to it retaining all the classic bogner crunch.

Kenneth u r one lucky guy lah lol, pls post more reviews yeah after speanding more time with it. Btw do u have any idea whether citymusic still have stock for the alchemist when u bought it?
 
Is it just me or does anyone find the youtube clips sound more like a boogie than a marshall on the dirt channel?

The cleans are very nice, but every plays it with the reverb on!!! I would like to hear it without any reverb.

Hmmm youtube clips may not be accurate, so it is best to try it yourself and listen. As for a youtube clip without the reverb, u can try the musicmesse clip where bogner actually off the reverb to demonstrate the clean tones, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XngNmm2BtS4

I wouldn't say it sounds like a mesa rectifier per se, but maybe the older mesa boogies ;)
 
Oh if thats the case, some of those old mesa tones can be achieved, although i still feel that it is bogner's own original tone imho.......he has really created a unique tone, something different from marshalls and mesa boogies.....
 
Btw do u have any idea whether citymusic still have stock for the alchemist when u bought it?

Hmm...no more bro, for this shipment. The next batch is coming in Jan, but even then I'm not sure if they've stopped ordering for Jan.

Also, the head n cab sounds different from the 2x12 combo - go try em out for urself ppl! I personally prefer the head n cab.
 
Oh manz......i tried it the head+cab version, really sweet imo although i didnt try the combos.....cause i am not looking for one lol. Wahaha really lucky that u got the last one huh? Well i guess if people already paid for it, they have to bring it in rite keke? I wun be surprise if it turns out to be a hot seller.
 
Haha I didn't get the last piece bro...I ordered it, so mine was included in the Dec shipment. :) I think it's awesome value really... City Music is really offering a v competitive price on the Alchemist.
 
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