Battle Of Mumbai..Your thoughts..

[hecklerkoch]

you don't shoot mp5s like this!! its not counterstrike!!!!

You can't see it clearly but he has an LCD screen attached to his right eye below his helmet that is connected wirelessly to a miniature camera that is placed behind the MP5's rear sight.

That's how he can aim.

You never watch Indian films issit?

They are very high tech, you know.

 

[Whitestrat]

the terror network recruits young impressionable minds,instilling "me vs the world" mentality in them..spoonfeeding them with ideals of Freedom,Oppression,Rebellion,Chaste and Empathy...FORCE in intel-speak..

Freedom - fighting for your belief/ideals/religion/motherland
Oppression - believing that the status quo are evil/immoral
Rebellion - to wage war by any means necessary
Chaste - believing that being pure in action/mind
Empathy - believing that others are suffering the same..in this case fellow Muslims..

Not the MICE paradigm? Oh wait... that's for espionage and treason.:mrgreen:

 

[Whitestrat]

How would you feel to live life everyday, praying the train you took or the cafe you lunch at wouldn't blow up? How would you feel if you have a family of four to protect and feed as well? Wouldn't you agree that it is all a tad backwards, considering the age we are living in? This isn't the Age of Faith anymore. Why is religion still a problem?

This is what I've been trying to drum into him... You couldn't have said it better... But I think our words fall on deaf ears.

 

[tim098]

Why is religion still a problem? Since when was religion, or should I say different religions, not a problem?

 

[empihsrow]

Religion is forever a problem, my friend.

I find it amusing that despite all the peace that religion promotes, it's true that religion has killed more men than any other thing could.

Besides, I don't worry if my school or the next cafe is gonna get blown up. I mean chances are, terrorists do not get a chance to blow up hotels/train stations/anywhere-else on a regular basis. >.<

Oh, and I won't turn into a terrorist if they ever recruit. I admit I am a radical but I'm rational. Besides, they can't brainwash me. I have my own school of thoughts.

 

[tim098]

It isnt religion per se that causes these tragedies. It is the fact that there are different religions and/or differences in religions

 

[empihsrow]

bro emphishrow

"I believe Islam extremists actually make up a small percentage of global terrorism"
-qoute by you...

as a former civil servant with a privy of insider knowledge and experience...this very false belief, I might add by the West and some other governments were the very cause of 9/11..
and the aftermath of the scale of attacks we are witnessing thereafter..

Eh, there are other kind of terrorists around. Not all are Islam extremists... There are the LTTE, the Maoist terrorists in Nepal, Phillippines's very own New People's Army, Northern Ireland's own IRA...

I believe Islam extremists are always viewed as the most dangerous and outstanding because of the extensive media coverage on Al-Qaeda and its smaller allies ever since 911. But 911 itself is such a controversial topic that I believe there's indeed a conspiracy behind the extensive coverage on Islam extremists.

 

[empihsrow]

It isnt religion per se that causes these tragedies. It is the fact that there are different religions and/or differences in religions

Sorry bro, think my message isn't too clear. Of course religions can't kill on their own. It's just sad that when men cannot see eye to eye, bloodshed seems to be the best way out.

 

[fuzztremecho]

yup bro emp
...there are other terrorist organizations around as per mentioned..
this are the ones designated by US State Dept

Current List of Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations


1.Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
2.Abu Sayyaf Group
3.Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
4.Ansar al-Islam
5.Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
6.Asbat al-Ansar
7.Aum Shinrikyo
8.Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
9.Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
10.Continuity Irish Republican Army
12.Gama’a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group)
13.HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
14.Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
15.Hizballah (Party of God)
16.Islamic Jihad Group
17.Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
18.Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
19.Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI)
20.al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
21.Kahane Chai (Kach)
22.Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK)
23.Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)
24.Lashkar i Jhangvi
25.Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
26.Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
27.Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)
29.Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
30.National Liberation Army (ELN)
31.Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
32.Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
33.Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLF)
34.PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)
35.Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq)
(.formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network)
36.al-Qa’ida
37.al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (formerly GSPC)
38.Real IRA
39.Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
40.Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA)
41.Revolutionary Organization 17 November
42.Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
43.Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL)
44.United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC)

the ones in red are links with Al-Qaida/Islamic militancy...
a total of 28/44 known FTOs

 

[justheretolook]

war is just another helldoor opened by satanic idiots who probably listen to quranic verses with black metal backgrd(no offence).

But then again, there is no such thing as a strike or an attack IF the government does well, just like Singapore. Both parties are to blame. Just look at the 'protection' the 'SWAT' team gets. Pathetic. It shows their ministry of defence is complacent in using old skool weaponry. It also indirectly provokes terrorist in attacking their country, externally or internally.

I got so many things to say. But im lazy, blah!

 

[empihsrow]

war is just another helldoor opened by satanic idiots who probably listen to quranic verses with black metal backgrd(no offence).

I'm appalled. o.o What has it got to do with Satan now?

 

[metalhead1993]

yes exactly. Don't discriminate my fellow satanists, there are crazy christians out there who start wars and do such dreadful deeds. You're lucky i'm not cursing mate, im alrdy on a yellow card

 

[visa]

war is just another helldoor opened by satanic idiots who probably listen to quranic verses with black metal backgrd(no offence).

and you are just another ignorant fella making blatant, judgemental generalizations and sweeping statements who thinks nothing is offensive if you end it with "no offence". I'll bet, like your nickname suggests, that you are just here to look and have nothing to contribute whatsoever.

No offence.

 

[Whitestrat]

yup bro emp
...there are other terrorist organizations around as per mentioned..
this are the ones designated by US State Dept

Current List of Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations

You forgot the now defunct KKK!!!!:twisted:

 

[cereal]

Has anyone read either today's or yesterday's "Today" paper? I am quite sure it is today. Some writer was writing that terrorists are no more than vile animals, killing for the sake of bloodshed.

WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS THAT. I was honestly considering writing in to tell them of how shallow and childish that entire article was but im too lazy to do that. For the sake of bloodshed; does the writer think this is some movie where the terrorists are all evil born evil bred evil minded bastards bent on killing people for the fun of it??

To cite this post by Tim098 as reference, I can fully understand his sentiments and the sentiments of similar posts

Its is great to hear other point of views like this because what I'm guessing Tim098 is trying to do is not to be a terrorist sympathizer, but rather point out the bigger picture.

There are bigger forces at work and to say kill all terrorists isn't really solving the problem at its roots. These 10 men, they are merely pawns in a bigger war. The measures put in place by Governments around the world just isn't good enough.

We need to go after the big-wigs but with all the money, intelligence and weapons technology that we have nothing has been achieved.

 

[cereal]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ook-cocaine-to-stay-awake-during-assault.html

And to add, its scary to think that these 10 men are better armed, more well-trained than our boys in green.

"They underwent training in several phases, which included training in handling weapons, bomb making, survival strategies, survival in a marine environment and even dietary habits," a senior officer said.

These are not simply religious zealots, they are well-planned, well funded organizations. Heck they operate better than some first world sectors. They are not some brainwashed kampung kids, question is how the hell can they be going about all this and the authorities not have some form of intel on it.

P.S Just to state, taking mind-altering substances is forbidden in Islam

 

[cereal]

Just to sidetrack, is it a prerequisite to have a moustache on every police figure here in India?

Those look bad-ass, these black cat commandos can sure kick some ass. Sorry Sunderland fans the same can't be said for Roy Keane's black cats.

Maybe its a tactic so the bad guys won't know who is who yeah? They all look kinda alike.

 

[fuzztremecho]

bro whitey
KKK..they are not designated as Foreign Terrorist Organization..
more of local white supremacist/hate group..

bros who have contributed..thank you very much...just ignore justtheretolook...as his nick suggest..he is here to look..hehehehe

 

[fuzztremecho]

the picture above, I do find it a lil' bit unsettling.As far as I know,special ops forces/elite tactical unit operators were supposed to be very secretive and masked at all times before and after a mission.

Only after mission stand-down and debriefing were we allowed to resume normalcy mode.
One of the reason being that,terrorist networks could identify us and use any means necessary to extract vital information pertaining to Classified Information.

 

[jullian_bei]

I follow this thread with great enthusiast.

Very interesting that the discussion begin to talks about global terrorism . bro fuzztremecho cited the list of terrorist which is very true. but beside see the gang's name and summed "28/44" we must also know the quantitative measurements. for example what number is the members. is the 1. Abu Nidal Organization(ANO) members as close as no.2 Abu Sayyaf Group's? can Aum Shinrikyo terror can directly compared to Al-Qaeda?


On media coverage issue.
Yes the media also have a hidden agenda. I stay in Indonesia for wholelife and I know how biased the media can be. Just a month ago we follow the news of Bali Bomber execution. some media in Indonesia reported on how the family of the executed party fell behind.in contrast some medias in Singapore and Australia emphasized on how complicated the whole process. explanation on this biased can be blame to commercial aspect of the media. the majority of reader's background will affect's direction on media report.

and since I read Today every morning (free....) I am glad that the Singapore media seems to pointed out the destruction aspect of terrorism. hopefully this explain that majority reader of Today still not ready with terrorism. In Mumbai case I am glad Today reported on how one Singaporean lost is a VERY BIG news. and I hope with this mentality we will take measurements as early as possible, .... before we are, like, say, "... uh.. last night bomb, die again? lucky not me... "

good discussion here .