About Fender Strats
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IbanezFreak
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hollowman
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thanks for the clarification.
does this kinds of trem (wilkinson and Fender vintage) fall under the fixed-bridge trem category? is 'fixed bridge trem' a proper category?
also, what's a super strat? is it Ibanez's RG shape?
HarrisonYeo
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no it falls under tremolo . it's build to float in the first place, just that many people have the idea that it's suppose to lay flat on the groud.
teokiatuan
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super strats are mostly built for rock, they mostly have HSH or HSS configurations, and most have pointier horns. Ibanez RG would be one of the best selling superstrat models out there. But other brands do make them, like ESP, Jackson..
Liquidribs
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so the rough price of a CIJ (maple neck and fretboard, yellowish white alder body finish, single coil with or w/o tremolo) is about 1.2k? anyone?
teokiatuan
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not sure leh, swee lee is having some great sale on their fenders
link here
http://soft.com.sg/forum/swee-lee-m...hipment-don-t-miss-great-shocking-prices.html
can call to ask...
just to throw out what i think are two impt differences between an MIJ and an MIA strat
firstly, the MIAs are finished in nitrocellulose which will age over time with the wood. The MIJs are finished in polyurethane. nitrocellulose lacquer is derived from wood. Polyurethane is plastic hence it does not age like nitro and some say, it has an effect of encasing the wood and reducing its resonance. what both lacquer does tone-wise to the guitar is subjective at the end of day but nitro-finished guitars will age and look better over time.
another thing is the MIJs have a thick coat of lacquer on the neck so that affects the feel when you are playing. Some like it, some don't.
2ndly, the MIA strat electronics are better (pickups, pots etc). This is again subjective, some think that the MIJ strats sound better.
These are just my opinions of course, and in no way meant to put down MIJ Fenders. They are great guitars but personally at the current prices for MIJs, i would rather fork out a little more for an MIA strat.
firstly, the MIAs are finished in nitrocellulose which will age over time with the wood. The MIJs are finished in polyurethane. nitrocellulose lacquer is derived from wood. Polyurethane is plastic hence it does not age like nitro and some say, it has an effect of encasing the wood and reducing its resonance. what both lacquer does tone-wise to the guitar is subjective at the end of day but nitro-finished guitars will age and look better over time.
another thing is the MIJs have a thick coat of lacquer on the neck so that affects the feel when you are playing. Some like it, some don't.
2ndly, the MIA strat electronics are better (pickups, pots etc). This is again subjective, some think that the MIJ strats sound better.
These are just my opinions of course, and in no way meant to put down MIJ Fenders. They are great guitars but personally at the current prices for MIJs, i would rather fork out a little more for an MIA strat.
HarrisonYeo
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u cant really mention MIA has nitro finish as only selected model has nitro.
however it's part of fender's marketing plot to mention ''nitro'' as there is still a poly sealer under the nitro.
u cant really mention MIA has nitro finish as only selected model has nitro.
however it's part of fender's marketing plot to mention ''nitro'' as there is still a poly sealer under the nitro.
Ized
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nowadays the MIA strats are finished in polyutherane also. pickup wise, you wont be able to get texas specials, american vintage or dimarzio pups in the MIA guitars...the standards nowadays only come with the stock factory variety or tex mex(these sound very weak to me). So another +1 to Japanese strats. Im referring to CIJ strats and not the MIJs in general. And workmanship wise, I think most would agree that CIJ strats are more consistent than american ones. I have played many CIJ guitars that sound nearly identical to each other while i find many differences in terms of sound when playing several MIA or MIM guitars of the same model at one time.
Whitestrat
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*ahem* you do know that MIAs are still poly right? The paints are still poly/acryllic paints. Only the finish is nitro. Welcome to the world of marketing...
HarrisonYeo
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lol wut?
the american reissues comes with the 57/62 ''vintage'' pickups , and certain american models comes with stock dimarzio.
HarrisonYeo
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the american vintage reissues has poly undercoat too =(
Ized
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what what? *mimics stone cold steve austin*
Im referring the american standards/highway ones la.....higher end models don count! and for that price difference i better get good pickups installed in there already...shell out so much den still gotta change pups....sheesh
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poly undercoat? i seriously didnt know about that. that kind of defeats the purpose of the nitro lacquer doesnt it? i've learnt something new today...
i dont understand that part about tex mex pickups, specials etc. The highway ones comes with alnico 3 pickups and the stds comes with 57/62 right? dont scare me le, the poly undercoat is pretty shocking to me already.
i dont understand that part about tex mex pickups, specials etc. The highway ones comes with alnico 3 pickups and the stds comes with 57/62 right? dont scare me le, the poly undercoat is pretty shocking to me already.
HarrisonYeo
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highway one has a very thick poly undercoat and a very thin layer of nitro , one of fender's marketing plot
the standard american strats DO NOT have 57/62 . the standard american strats comes with the normal standard ''hot'' american single coils .
only the 57 reissues and 62 reissues has the 57/62 pickups.
also to addon , the standard and deluxe american models have poly finish as well as poly undercoat . so yeah the whole thing is poly finished .
only thinskin models do not consist of the poly.I'am not too sure about custom shop models , but do not worry so much man , strats such as the EJ strat also consist of a poly undercoat.
but fear not man , high end guitar makers such as PRS uses poly finish too , however thier poly finish is fu*king thin hence allowing the guitar to resonate better.
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Ized
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haha well the resident strat expert bro whitestrat has spoken la, so its quite clear about the nitro and poly coating issues for MIA strats.....BUT! that aside, dosent matter what make or country your strat is, whats most important is you like it, whether it be a mex, lower end highway one, mid end american standard, high end vintage, whatever. I've friends who have MIM and american duluxes, but the tone and feel of the MIM just pwns for them. So it all boils down the personal preferences.....
