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gibbytones
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interesting question..
I dont think its happening in singapore, to my knowledege at least.
I dont think its happening in singapore, to my knowledege at least.
TequilaSunrise
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pay full price for equipment? that's weird, did you all break it or was it just a "Please pay us $400 for usage of this amp kthx"
TequilaSunrise
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You might want to ask the gig organizers how they knew it was you all that cracked it. I think for drum set it's quite obvious who (unless the previous guy didn't complain or bring up the matter). For amps all these it's harder to say, since during movement from van to stage, alot of things can happen. There was once the bass amp's shell cracked during movement, but luckily the soundman was kind enough to inform us about that, so we didn't have to do anything about it (except play with a cracked bass amp).
mightymouse
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yup encountered before, i mean the IC thing, so have a pretty good idea about the venue you might be talking about. which is why i would rather every band playing for a gig on a particular day chip in and pay for the damages caused. for example, you had to pay $400, so imagine if it was distributed over all the bands, the burden would have been lessend. coz if you think about it, the "breaking point" of an instrument like a drumkit occurs over time, where a myriad of ppl would have whacked and banged away. Now you can't be looking for all the bands who contributed to the damage, but at least get the bands who play for the particular gig to chip in and pay for the damages........think each band will have to like come up with max $5 or $10, maybe even less. that also the bands can distribute amongst each other, say $1 a person in a band of 5. sheesh!!!
can't say much about Amps though, coz i know next to nothing about guitars. so yeah, gig organisers should really look into this. the last time a couple of us organised a gig, we paid for damages outta our own pockets man. already bands don't get paid. if we were paid and they contra the cost from payment, then it would kinda be a different story.
aiya, dunno la.
can't say much about Amps though, coz i know next to nothing about guitars. so yeah, gig organisers should really look into this. the last time a couple of us organised a gig, we paid for damages outta our own pockets man. already bands don't get paid. if we were paid and they contra the cost from payment, then it would kinda be a different story.
aiya, dunno la.
extremers
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well its like an insurance for the owner of the drum set that you (the drummer) will take extra care while playing. cos we're only "loaning" the drumset for free and if we break any part of it, i guess we'll have to pay for it. i guess the owner would like some identification in order not to face those that will run away after they got one or some of the drum parts are broken.
then we have the choice of not passing the identification card to the owner right? unless we don't mind foregoing our slots, that is. *laughs*
then we have the choice of not passing the identification card to the owner right? unless we don't mind foregoing our slots, that is. *laughs*
Rossie
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No. Do not surrender your IC to anyone.
I've did it once, and later the organizer didn't want to give it back without any payments yadda yadda yadda. I stood my ground, and said I would walk out of here and report it to the police of them stealling my IC. Guess what? They gave me back.
If they (the organizers) really want compensation for the equipment "you broke", then just ask them to use the right way to seek compensation, sue you. I seriously doubt that they would go through the hassle of doing that, unless it's a S$20,000 DW.
Anyway, equipment rental companies got to realize that the business that they do involves certain risk, including equipments damaged by users. A friend of mine has a studio, and rents out stuff for musicians to use, he said whenever he finds something is broken, he'll normally fix it himself, bearing all the costs, that's business, you don't want customers giving you a bad reputation by quarreling with them. Of course, users of the equipment should exercise responsibility by not abusing the equipments.
Sorry for the rant. Brought up bad memories.
I've did it once, and later the organizer didn't want to give it back without any payments yadda yadda yadda. I stood my ground, and said I would walk out of here and report it to the police of them stealling my IC. Guess what? They gave me back.
If they (the organizers) really want compensation for the equipment "you broke", then just ask them to use the right way to seek compensation, sue you. I seriously doubt that they would go through the hassle of doing that, unless it's a S$20,000 DW.
Anyway, equipment rental companies got to realize that the business that they do involves certain risk, including equipments damaged by users. A friend of mine has a studio, and rents out stuff for musicians to use, he said whenever he finds something is broken, he'll normally fix it himself, bearing all the costs, that's business, you don't want customers giving you a bad reputation by quarreling with them. Of course, users of the equipment should exercise responsibility by not abusing the equipments.
Sorry for the rant. Brought up bad memories.
I had the same experience once. But not at a gig, was at a jamming studio. The studio staff insist that we break one of their cymbal. The staff showed us the crack which was a hairline crack and insist we pay SGD$50 or they will not return us the IC we used to book the studio. After paying they didn't allow us to bring back the cymbal, they said if you want the cymbal you gotta pay another fee blah blah blah.
And to add one last note. The songs we played are not those heavy songs. IMO you should really not surrender your IC unless you trust the organizer.
Just my 2 cent
And to add one last note. The songs we played are not those heavy songs. IMO you should really not surrender your IC unless you trust the organizer.
Just my 2 cent
hmm..i guess..everyone agrees tat serruendering ur I/C before performance is wrong rite...i wont say the place and name of organisers here as it will be total chaos..so for those who knows abt it..yea i had a very bad experience...
i dun mind paying for it but nt until bear the full cost..even jamming studioz dun take u for granted to bear the full cost...and until u threatening nt to gif back I/C unless u pay...like as if i'm paying for the cost of MY OWN I/C...WTH...
and wat i disagree and nvr to respect the owner and organiser is..as the owner..u shld be discuzzing tis matter wif the organiser nt juz demand money from the band..
we play music to enjoy n nt to fight...we shld be supporting...nt condemning..like ppl say..doing gigs..there shld be risk of equiptments damage and stuffs...u cant juz be hoping for profits...
ok..tats settle peeps...thanx for answering to my opinions...so nxt step i gt to go is the police now...shall go and discuzz abt tis matter...
to all the musicians out there...i've learn my mistakes from these organisers and owners...
i dun mind paying for it but nt until bear the full cost..even jamming studioz dun take u for granted to bear the full cost...and until u threatening nt to gif back I/C unless u pay...like as if i'm paying for the cost of MY OWN I/C...WTH...
and wat i disagree and nvr to respect the owner and organiser is..as the owner..u shld be discuzzing tis matter wif the organiser nt juz demand money from the band..
we play music to enjoy n nt to fight...we shld be supporting...nt condemning..like ppl say..doing gigs..there shld be risk of equiptments damage and stuffs...u cant juz be hoping for profits...
ok..tats settle peeps...thanx for answering to my opinions...so nxt step i gt to go is the police now...shall go and discuzz abt tis matter...
to all the musicians out there...i've learn my mistakes from these organisers and owners...
First of,it is a Rip off for bands,especially those of which most members are not working. So the scene here is tainted with commercialism and if you can swallow it,it is good,for me,i will never surrender an IC or pay for whatever damage done. Music is for enjoyment,ultimately.Who can disagree?
i agree music is for enjoyment..yea i've made a mistake for surrendering my I/C to them...so i've learn and i hope other bands will learn n nt make the same mistake like i do..
its true that its totally unfair for the performers to pay up that amount if they r still students..but yeah..can see that these oragnisers and owners dun care...all they care is MONEY!! tats their main issue here...and its juz my luck to go thru all this..
its true that its totally unfair for the performers to pay up that amount if they r still students..but yeah..can see that these oragnisers and owners dun care...all they care is MONEY!! tats their main issue here...and its juz my luck to go thru all this..
gutturalpiss
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but shouldnt u highlight the party to us so that we can be aware?
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