loldude333
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So i take it that you're implying that the Rally is shit, and that you've tried it and that you think it get totally owned by the MIJ or MIT Yamahas? If not, i shall ask again: have YOU tried the Rally?
Which yamaha guitar
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yamaha_kid
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Whatever we say wouldn't make a diff, but if you're so set on getting the ERG or whatever then go ahead but I HOPE that you'll find it in your HEART to take whatever's been said to heart, even if its just with a pinch of salt.
Don't JUST look at Yamaha, seriously, look around at other brands and you'll be surprised, since you're only looking to buy brand new, I really have to discredit Yamaha. Like I said before, go to SV or Davis, give them your budget for the guitar alone and test till your fingers bleed, i'm assuming you know how to play the electric guitar?
If you can't however very simple, get a friend to come along
well, i've given up on NEW yamahas as it is not very durable, i just mentioned it because some people were saying that old yamahas was good which i did not mention anything about
lemonade93
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No one says shit taste good, in the same way. No one would recommend a shitty ( hahah a pun!) guitar?
Haha it'd be contradictory to what I said, but still. Go try out the Yamaha's aswell
And feel and hear which you like bestok rally is the best thing since sliced bread and better than gibson. happy?
for yamaha vs rally, to sum up, in order of highest quality to lowest quality:
yamaha mij
yamaha mit
yamaha mic/mii
rally
loldude333
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In terms of value-for-money, for me the Rally rates above the Yamaha MIC/MII. But definitely the MIT and MIJ models of the Pacifica stand over that.
yamaha_kid
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haven't seen or tried any of the MIT or MIJ before...
loldude333
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Like we said, they can only be obtained 2nd hand. Very very very hard to find new, and even if you did manage to source to a new one, it'll cost quite a bit as they were of very high quality.
yamaha_kid
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and are definitely out of my budget
not really. i bought mine for $600. 20 year old gem!
MadWerewolfBoy
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hi TS, here at soft, you've gotta learn to sift the crap posts and nonsense bickering from the useful ones.
here's a link i hope you will find helpful: http://www.citymusic.com.sg/index.asp?p=/static/promotions.html
personally i think citymusic's customisable "starter packs" are good value for money cause i've tried those craftsman and line 6 amps myself. I'm sure SV at peninsular plaza also gives good deal for their starter packs but i haven't tried those.
if you wait for a month, maybe you'll get better deals if citymusic has their year end sale again in december
here's a link i hope you will find helpful: http://www.citymusic.com.sg/index.asp?p=/static/promotions.html
personally i think citymusic's customisable "starter packs" are good value for money cause i've tried those craftsman and line 6 amps myself. I'm sure SV at peninsular plaza also gives good deal for their starter packs but i haven't tried those.
if you wait for a month, maybe you'll get better deals if citymusic has their year end sale again in december
yamaha_kid
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thanks, another option to consider... hamer cx2r or rally gl 300...
trippyfactory
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Totally agreed with your POV.
But using Fender and PRS is not a "an apple to apple" comparison. They are top high end quality guitars that no one can deny.
Just to bring you back to the point: We are talking about entry level guitars.
The thing about Yamaha being multi-discipline company since the 1800's is just to prove a point that they are an old established company that makes decent instruments for years.
It's just the reality of buyer and consumer behaviour: Yamaha is more famous than Rally - therefore people recognize the brand even before they put their hands on it.
Try bring a Yamaha and a Rally guitar to "Cash Convertors" and see which of them can fetch you a higher price.
Disclaimer: No offense to SV guitars and Mike! Just MHO.
Kindest,
TF
EugeneSmasher
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It begs the question. Which is more important: Value for money? or Resale value? Just something to think about because for me, it depends on which brand. 
@ Yamaha_Kid: Hamer offers good value for money I think. I've heard they have poor tone, though, best to try before buying but I think they're actually pretty good. If City Music has packages which pair a Hamer guitar and a Line 6 Spider amp, that's a pretty good deal because the amp is good and most importantly, very versatile.
If you buy the Rally, as it does not come as a package, you can get a similarly versatile amp to go with it, but the total cost would probably be more than you'd pay for a starter pack at City Music. So if you ask me, City Music's packages offer better value. I'm not sure if City Music's packages include Hamer guitars, but the Craftsman guitars are pretty darn good too.
But if you were to ask me to choose between the Hamer and the Rally, guitars-only, not considering the amps or budget, etc, I'd prefer to go with the Rally. Reason being that it's recommended by a lot of people here. Hamer for some reason is rarely mentioned on this forum.
@ Yamaha_Kid: Hamer offers good value for money I think. I've heard they have poor tone, though, best to try before buying but I think they're actually pretty good. If City Music has packages which pair a Hamer guitar and a Line 6 Spider amp, that's a pretty good deal because the amp is good and most importantly, very versatile.
If you buy the Rally, as it does not come as a package, you can get a similarly versatile amp to go with it, but the total cost would probably be more than you'd pay for a starter pack at City Music. So if you ask me, City Music's packages offer better value. I'm not sure if City Music's packages include Hamer guitars, but the Craftsman guitars are pretty darn good too.
But if you were to ask me to choose between the Hamer and the Rally, guitars-only, not considering the amps or budget, etc, I'd prefer to go with the Rally. Reason being that it's recommended by a lot of people here. Hamer for some reason is rarely mentioned on this forum.
loldude333
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I've handled Hamers before and one of the key complaints was that the pickups always seemed to 'fizz up' after a coupla months of playing, humbuckers and single coils alike. Also, the bridges were always unstable. I had 4 friends who owned Hamers at some time or another, they didn't use the whammy often, but the bridges, regardless of it being a vintage style trem or the Licensed FR (ok this one is expected i guess), always went out of tune after about 30mins. It was rather irritating. If you'd ask me i'd say stick to the Craftsmans.
@Trippyfactory: Yes i understood your point, just that i personally felt very discouraged by the current batch of Pacificas, as i'm sure you are, and hence i recommended the Rally as a more value-for-money purchase. For me, the resale value is always a very secondary concern as usually i will buy a guitar with intention to keep it.
Just my 2 cents worth.
@Trippyfactory: Yes i understood your point, just that i personally felt very discouraged by the current batch of Pacificas, as i'm sure you are, and hence i recommended the Rally as a more value-for-money purchase. For me, the resale value is always a very secondary concern as usually i will buy a guitar with intention to keep it.
Just my 2 cents worth.
EugeneSmasher
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Actually, unless we're talking about high-end guitars, does resale value really matter? Surely it only goes down over time for low-end and mid-end instruments, even for the big brands?
I buy a guitar with the desire to keep it for a long time, so buying a Yamaha (not a high-end one) or buying a Rally or Craftsman, I'd go with the Rally or Craftsman if I like it more, because it's cheaper, and either way the Yamaha cannot be sold for much if I keep it for a long time, either.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I'm not sure about the resale value of MIJ and MIT Pacificas. I do know about the MII and MIC Pacificas though. Resale value drops by a lot.
I buy a guitar with the desire to keep it for a long time, so buying a Yamaha (not a high-end one) or buying a Rally or Craftsman, I'd go with the Rally or Craftsman if I like it more, because it's cheaper, and either way the Yamaha cannot be sold for much if I keep it for a long time, either.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I'm not sure about the resale value of MIJ and MIT Pacificas. I do know about the MII and MIC Pacificas though. Resale value drops by a lot.
trippyfactory
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Spot on!
But to each it's own I suppose. I'll check out Rally in due course so that I can make an unbias comment.
Cheers beers,
RF
trippyfactory
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Double spot on! One has to realise that the value of an item goes 50% less right after it's being brought out of the show room.
Unfortunately, in terms of negotiating in a 2nd trading pit, the brand matters quite a bit.
It took me a long time to realise this..but in actual fact, all you need is ONE-GOOD-SOLID-TO-THE-BALLS guitar. All the GAS attack (which haunts you) will eventually die off. Besides, you've only got a pair of hands to play one guitar at one time...
Take the bullet, feel the pain for only one time. Buy a ONE-GOOD-SOLID-TO-THE-BALLS guitar and enjoy till you give up guitar.
Enjoy the 6 strings, guys!
Cheers,
TF
yamaha_kid
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@TF and loldude, i totally agree, im planning to keep it as long as it can last, most probably getting a rally with spider IV 30w... it is about $700 including all the accessories right?
Haha that made my day xD
loldude333
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SOLID TO THE BALLS MAN!!! Hahahaha! Sometimes the guitar you buy doesn't have to be an expensive one, it could be a cheap one, but you can mod it in due to course to make it THE guitar of your dreams. Rarely (for me at least) does a stock guitar satisfy me, even a 5k one. My Ibanez is probably the closest, i wanna change the pickups and the pots to up the clarity (Ibanez INF pickups are extremely muddy, to me at least). Then of course there's the rig. Hahahaha. And yeah, the Rally and the Spider IV combo sounds good, but do keep the Craftsmans in mind.
