What is really a midhump?
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PatheinRaindropMoe
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mids is frequency in the context of sound, a certain range within the frequency spectrum. Just like low(bass freq), hi(treble freq) etc.
Mid hump, is usually referring to sound thats rather obvious with the mids being boosted or added in, when compared to the orginal sound(before effect is used on it for processing)
Mid hump, is usually referring to sound thats rather obvious with the mids being boosted or added in, when compared to the orginal sound(before effect is used on it for processing)
blueprintstudios
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to show you an example I powered up my cool edit's EQ and drew this....
sorry couldn't help it but to rotate the image....
but jokes aside it's what PatheinRaindropMoe said.
sorry couldn't help it but to rotate the image....
but jokes aside it's what PatheinRaindropMoe said.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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mwahahahahaha! Thats a good one, blue bro!
That pic is absolutely clear on explanation, men and women should love mids hump!
Say no to "scooped mids"
That pic is absolutely clear on explanation, men and women should love mids hump!
Say no to "scooped mids"
MadWerewolfBoy
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i think in terms of drive pedals, mids typically refer to frequency from 500Hz to 2000Hz. midhumps can be achieved 2 ways, one being boosting these frequency above the rest, and the other being cutting the rest of the frequencies apart from the mid.
mid boosts are really obvious in some pedals, like the ibanez tubescreamer. it gives the pedal a very round and fat tone but not too muddy (cause apart from the trebles, some bass is removed too).
the human ear is most receptive to frequencies around 1000Hz (meaning if many frequencies are played simultaneously at the same actual volume on paper, the frequencies around 1000Hz would be perceived to be louder than the rest to us)
apart from making the tone of the guitar sweeter (objective), pedals that have the characteristics of boosting these mids are generally used to make the lead guitar cut through the mix during solos and solo riffs.
its not a good idea to use mid boosted pedals to play backing rhythm as the singer sings because it fights for "sound space" and distracts listeners from the vocals. thus people scoop mids for guitar for rhythm when the vocalist is singing.
mid boosts are really obvious in some pedals, like the ibanez tubescreamer. it gives the pedal a very round and fat tone but not too muddy (cause apart from the trebles, some bass is removed too).
the human ear is most receptive to frequencies around 1000Hz (meaning if many frequencies are played simultaneously at the same actual volume on paper, the frequencies around 1000Hz would be perceived to be louder than the rest to us)
apart from making the tone of the guitar sweeter (objective), pedals that have the characteristics of boosting these mids are generally used to make the lead guitar cut through the mix during solos and solo riffs.
its not a good idea to use mid boosted pedals to play backing rhythm as the singer sings because it fights for "sound space" and distracts listeners from the vocals. thus people scoop mids for guitar for rhythm when the vocalist is singing.
tpiledriver
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woah senior members of soft,
thanks for the info man.!
I got a lot to learn from you people.
thanks for the info man.!
I got a lot to learn from you people.
blueprintstudios
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on what madwerewolfboy said, so it makes sense if you're in some gothic/XcoreX band with a growler. and the vocals is more "mids/low mids" , for that to cut through easier usually the guitars are EQed sharper. and allow just the kick + bass + growl to sit together nicely.
if you're in an orchestral band and the opera fat woman singer is more high mids>highs. there's usually more space for the lower freq instruments to make the overall sound more "grand/phat" . visualize EQ as a form of taking a group photo. short ones front. tall ones back. fat ones side. skinny ones. center.
giving a mid boost at 1K is like giving a chair to a midget in the middle of the photo so he can be seen.
I know what I've said is very "audio/mixing based" but it applies just as much.
if you're in an orchestral band and the opera fat woman singer is more high mids>highs. there's usually more space for the lower freq instruments to make the overall sound more "grand/phat" . visualize EQ as a form of taking a group photo. short ones front. tall ones back. fat ones side. skinny ones. center.
giving a mid boost at 1K is like giving a chair to a midget in the middle of the photo so he can be seen.
I know what I've said is very "audio/mixing based" but it applies just as much.
dudelove
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actually mid humps can be pretty nice like how the guys have explained. for example a marshall. its quite heavy in the mids and its a musical mid hump. its literally a hump in the eq.
some ppl dont like for example, tubescreamers for that mid hump because its not really a hump, more like a spike in the mid frequencies. okay tubescreamers are not a very good example, i find them quite pleasant actually. but anyway, if u have a graphic equalizer, not necessarily a pedal, even itunes, just try maxing the 800-1000Hz frequency. its really quite awful and unmusical. thats an exeggerated explaination of a mid hump. i prefer calling it mid spike cos i like mid humps!
some ppl dont like for example, tubescreamers for that mid hump because its not really a hump, more like a spike in the mid frequencies. okay tubescreamers are not a very good example, i find them quite pleasant actually. but anyway, if u have a graphic equalizer, not necessarily a pedal, even itunes, just try maxing the 800-1000Hz frequency. its really quite awful and unmusical. thats an exeggerated explaination of a mid hump. i prefer calling it mid spike cos i like mid humps!
Godspeed64
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Okay, the rest have explained about mid-hump and our dear blueprintstudios even threw out a diagram for ya! I'll just add some reasons why a mid-hump can be good or bad.
Why a 'mid-hump' can be good:
On certain Fender amps whereby the bass and treble can be set inherently high (due to the 2-band EQ) and the stock tone is already scooped, the typical Tubescreamer pedal will fatten things up a bit, making your sound seem more 'full' if I may put it that way.
Why a 'mid-hump' can be bad:
When certain Marshall amps have that huge mid-range and adding a TS may be an overkill in the mids, making your notes somewhat more muddy; in which case an overdrive with a flat EQ like a Timmy or Bluesbreaker will be preferred.
Why a 'mid-hump' can be good:
On certain Fender amps whereby the bass and treble can be set inherently high (due to the 2-band EQ) and the stock tone is already scooped, the typical Tubescreamer pedal will fatten things up a bit, making your sound seem more 'full' if I may put it that way.
Why a 'mid-hump' can be bad:
When certain Marshall amps have that huge mid-range and adding a TS may be an overkill in the mids, making your notes somewhat more muddy; in which case an overdrive with a flat EQ like a Timmy or Bluesbreaker will be preferred.
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MARKED
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O my gosh, thanks for tt man, actually i only expected a one liner answer. haha but u senior members have fully satisfied the question. yea i love the marshall tone too, but my cunchbox in front of it is overkill. My tim works fine, but not too well on my vox.could u guys also point out pedals that u have come across with an aweful midhump?
blueprintstudios
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so the sudden 4 day silence...
I'm not a guitarist but... erm. to answer your question : metalzone? awful midhump?
I'm not a guitarist but... erm. to answer your question : metalzone? awful midhump?
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