What do u call....

[phook]

i got a qn over here. as everyone know. a normal beat is called 4/4 right (which has 8 beat in a bar)? what about those beat that only has 4 hi-hats but e others are faster then normal. let me give u an example.

slow songs by bands like lifehouse, dashboard confessionals are e normal beat with always 8 hi-hats per bar. but songs by +44, blink 182, A7X only has 4 hi-hats per bar..

yeah like this. thanks in advance,

 

[rengaw]

i think if i'm not wrong, its the same, just a variation of the 4/4? correct me if i'm wrong.

the number of hi hat hits just means different beats, like 32 beats, 16 beats, 8 beats or 4 beats.

 

[weckl-x]

I think phook has a couple of things confused.

Tempo, Time Signature , What you actually play.

-Tempo
This is the actual speed, usually notated in BPM (beats per minute)

-Time signature

Simple time signatures
In simple time signatures, each beat is divided into two equal parts. Typically, therefore, each beat has the value of a non-dotted note.

* the upper number indicates how many beats there are in a bar;
* the lower number indicates the note value which represents one beat (the "beat unit").

The most common simple time signatures are 2/4, 3/4, and 4/4. The 4 at the bottom indicates that the beat unit is the quarter note or crotchet. For example, 3/4 means three quarter-note beats per measure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature

For example:

3/4 is 3 quarter notes per measure.
5/2 is 5 half notes per measure.
6/8 is 6 eighth notes per measure.

-What you play to fill up that time.

 

[rla]

I dun think phook is talking abt time signature,I think hes talking about like differnt types of music and different musical contexts call for diff ways to play the Hihats. Take for example Dave Ghrol during his time with Nirvana, he used to play alot of quarters only on the hats and some eights but rarely sixteens. But a funk drummer like John Blackwell will will more likely play 8ths of 16s on the hats. Keeping in mind that we're talkin abt Hats only and not bass-kicks. But we all know that we can interchange quarters, 8s and 16s on both the hats and bass kick.

So Phook, happy figuring out which musical context requires what. Rememebr that we gotta serve the music and not be blinded by biasness or preference. Versatility is something that we all strive for, but only a handful of us drummers truely achieve. Hopefully, you'll be one of those!

Cheers!
rla

 

[weckl-x]

Yeah, I didn't think phook was either, but that he/she had time/sig confused with what is actually played, so I felt it necessary to clarify that.

Nice example with Ghrol & Blackwell.

 

[phook]

its like +44 When your heart stops beating. theres 8 beat on e hi-hat, theres 16, theres 4 too..i think i got it wrong too..is it as long as there there are 8beat per bar its called 4/4? lets say what if there were 16beats per bar? what is it called? is it more clear now guys? hahha

 

[FREEKILL9566]

if im not wrong the slow music, they are playing quavers but in fast music, they cant hit the hi hat fast enough to do quavers so they do crotchets

 

[piano_ex]

it's up to u .....

it's still 4/4 .....

u can even play 12 hi-hat in 4/4 ... which makes it a triplet for each beat ...