warmoth or USACG

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jjames

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hi in reagrds to the topic above.
im already 80 percent sure of my specs so while i make the alterations here and there before i finalise.. i need to know abt the two companies.

ive heard that warmoth necks are not as good as they used to be and their fretting is not as good as it was? is this hearsay? i donnoe.. thats why need toa sk in the forums.

secondly.. my specs as ive mentioned before is a swamp ash body, 1 piece maple SSS config.

would stacked humbucks fit for this combi or should i go all 'vintage' as the guys put it.. 'mojo'

also someone who has ordered from these 2 companies pls comment.

thank u so much ppl
 
i like USACG. very nice fretwork and tommy is a nice person to deal with and they have my my favourite STP style body.
 
thanks for the quick reply edder.
have u had any personal experience to deal with warmoth or is the usacg comment just a view from experience with them only?

thank u
 
only with USACG.

No personal experience with Warmoth other than buying some parts which was a click and pay affair.

Warmoth also maybe more convenient if you intend to buy some hardware thats not available here. May save on shipping.

For my 12 string baritone project,

neck/body/pickguard - USACG
bridge - Warmoth
tuners - Davis
pickups - Bill Lawrence
others - odds and ends from my old WDmusic/Allpart dealership days
 
I've owned 2 Warmoths and 1 USACG. Both Warmoths were un-playable as received. They both needed fret-levelling. Over a period of about 2 years they both needed a few more setup/fret-levelling jobs. It's as if they were "settling in" and adjusting to the Singapore humidity. The USACG has never required any additional setup work. To be fair I should mention that the USACG neck is quartersawn maple with no figuring/flames and both Warmoths are highly figured maple. Quartersawn necks are known to be more stable. I should also mention that once the Warmoths finally settled in, they are excellent and have not required any maintenance in a long time. In fact the Warmoth Clapton Strat neck is my all-time favorite. The USACG comes in a close second. The Warmoth also has the handy trussrod side-adjustment.

So, which one would I buy again??? I'd probably flip a coin to decide.
 
secondly.. my specs as ive mentioned before is a swamp ash body, 1 piece maple SSS config.

would stacked humbucks fit for this combi or should i go all 'vintage' as the guys put it.. 'mojo'
Click to expand...

actually, why don't you go for HSH or swimming pool route? Then you can decide for yourself whether to go SSS, SSH, HSH or even HH simply by changing the pickguard... heh. :wink:

AND, for all the SC mojo you need: www.kinman.com... You want Hot SC noiseless pups? Check out the Woodstock Plus set with the HX85 bridge pup... :twisted:
 
I will only go for USACG if i wanna build a parts a caster. Superb quality and customer service. The woods are light and sound good too.
 
there are those who says that swimming pool route are prone to feedback and is different sounding due to the missing wood.

I Read, I Heard, I Relay. :wink:
 
the swimming pool option is wat i have considered before but im bent against it the only reason being i don wanna do humbuckers on my strat. haha.
i donnoe guess its the image of me wanting a strat for its usual standard vintage config.
and swimming pool cavity=less wood= less tonal abilities?? ermm i donnoe.. just guessing.

the pickup config is wat im rather fixed on SSS. i could get stacked hums but SSS will be top routed for this. vintage 6 screw bridge.
ok since im at it let me share some of the body specs i have tot till now
please do advice.

as follows

BODY:

1 piece Swamp ash

transparent finish (this aint impt now but oh wth)

SSS config

top routed for pickguard

standard postioning for pots and knobs.

countoured heel

tummy cut

forearm cut

absolutely no fancy bindings or flamed tops on this one. plain and simple

NECK:

1 piece flamed maple ( cant help it.. need the flame somewhere) :lol:

vintage 21 frets ( i have heard 21 frets give the best intonation on a strat body? but then again why do suhr and anderson make 22? beats me all these hearsay)

ok moving on..

6105 frets (abt the dual truss rod on warmoth im still reading on it.)

normal fender headstock (small)

gotoh tuners (wats the best ratio i can get to fit in 18:1?)

i think this should be it
so wat u guys think
 
imo the things you should take note are:

neck - C, D, V shape? Rounded fretboard? Radius? Compound radii? finished/unfinished?

bridge - what trem to use? reissue trem? etc?
 
Yeap, might as well go for Malcolm's NosNuma judging from the specs you want.

Regarding the truss rod... I wouldn't be bothered too much. Side access or vintage back-of-neck or "modern" from-headstock-entry... I would just take the "modern" one - Warmoth's approach sounds more gimicky. And I've only had my USACG setup once by Malcolm. The action remains the same and I'm quite demanding on having low shreddy action with no (read: absolultely NO) fretbuzz.

21 frets vs 22 frets - the neck single coil placement will be identical... so you might as well go 22 frets unless you prefer the traditional look.

Gotoh tuners - gotoh has the Delta series, 24:1 tuning ratio. I've used them before... very nice and with a good price to boot.
 
Don't we consider the price in everything? Hehe.


Btw, malcolm enlightened me on the point of having a trussrod done the "vintage" way... it does have its + points... and after he explained to me, they are valid and worthy + points.

So I stand corrected on "bothering about the truss rod". Looks like it does matter.
 
i READ that vintage tone fellas HATE the double action truss rods from warmoth. makes the neck heavy and has got a strange resonating thing about it.

I READ.
 
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