USB cables
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PatheinRaindropMoe
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usb cable doesnt carry audio signal, any generic one would prolly do the job for digital data communication/transfer between the computer and interface i guess.
carboxymoron
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yeah it really doesn't matter as long as it even meets the USB spec to make it to market.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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interesting, whats the kinda system that have different response, what kinda shielding will we have to look out for and what sort of interference will there be, for the audio signal?
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blueprintstudios
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anything that's thick,hard, decently long and it's head tip made of gold. is good. just remember that it's for a female audio jack. not for your girlfriend.
It is not response and can't really tell on measure.
It is all about A/B listening test.
In the market, you have to physically see the cable.
Something like this.
Upper floor of Sim Lim Square they do make data cable, maybe you can ask around and do a custom length for yourself.
carboxymoron
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While I don't doubt your ears kongwee but I find it quite interesting that there will be any difference. Since the USB cable is carrying digital data -- 1's and 0's, there is no qualitative element to it at all, only quantitative (literally a certain amount of electricity passing through the wire at intervals to signify 1's and 0's). The voltage signifying a "1" through a $100 cable cannot be "better" than the voltage signifying the "1" through a piece of coat hanger.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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cable with better shielding always a good thing in my book and with connectors that doesnt tarnished easily, but am just curious the kinda differences sonically.
I used some generic usb cable for my monomes and audio interface. Would be interesting to see how those customed soldered one(heck, with the material, i can even solder myself for the fun of it) can make a difference between a non audio related device like monome/usb midi controller and audio interface with usb in term of sound.
I used some generic usb cable for my monomes and audio interface. Would be interesting to see how those customed soldered one(heck, with the material, i can even solder myself for the fun of it) can make a difference between a non audio related device like monome/usb midi controller and audio interface with usb in term of sound.
carboxymoron
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Yes, I agree about shielding, proper thickness, and good connectors, as these are physical properties that also translate into better lifespan of the cable. But still dunno about how digital data can sound different. I'm not even talking about sounding better, just sounding different in any way.
blueprintstudios
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maybe too much tron legacy lol.
It is up to your guys to try. Beside shielding, my external USB HD has a ferrite bead USB cable. As said earlier just passing 1 and 0, why shielding and ferrite bead? Nothing beat you do a test on your own. It is not that hard to listen for differences. Even a layman can tell. Anyway, having extra USB is alway good,right?
If the law of nature can be as simple as that, but too bad it doesn't happen this way.
Digital data can be corrupted during transfer. Very very long ago when I was studying in poly, there was something about how computer data are moved around. It is like trying to relay 10 instructions to another person, we set a goal (checksum) of the desired outcome. If the goal is reached, we assume the 10 instructions are done. BUT, computer processes billions of instructions, chances of error in communication is possible.
All things equal, the path (cable) that is used in the communication will make the difference.
This is in theory. I haven't experience A/B of it in audio situation.
We need a computer/digital engineer to explain better!! haa..haaa...
All things equal, the path (cable) that is used in the communication will make the difference.
This is in theory. I haven't experience A/B of it in audio situation.
We need a computer/digital engineer to explain better!! haa..haaa...
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To add, but I throw most of my electrical knowledge back into poly. From 0-1, the electronic have to amply a frequency from 0 Hz - infinite frequency in a shortest time. In practical it is not possible. When 0 Hz - infinite frequency will generate noise too. Again this take a real engineer to explain this.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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hmm, ok, did some googling. The ferrite bead part is for eliminating rfi/emi which might find its way into the signal path along the cable.
theres also after market clip on ferrite bead for usb cable as well. Might be useful for instrument cable as well, perhaps not to improve tone, but to reduce stray rfi/emi round us with sources from oscillators in computer.
hehe, further search on usb cable quality online somehow just ended up with info from 2 camps, audiophiles and the rest.
www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/364565/usb-cable-and-sound-quality
theres also after market clip on ferrite bead for usb cable as well. Might be useful for instrument cable as well, perhaps not to improve tone, but to reduce stray rfi/emi round us with sources from oscillators in computer.
hehe, further search on usb cable quality online somehow just ended up with info from 2 camps, audiophiles and the rest.
www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/364565/usb-cable-and-sound-quality
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blueprintstudios
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likui : i just realised I misread as audio cable, but still same I guess. female usb jack.
if you're using PC make sure it's not plugged into an "extended USB" front. the usb cable shouldn't be very long as well.
if you're using PC make sure it's not plugged into an "extended USB" front. the usb cable shouldn't be very long as well.
Likui
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well they carry the digital signal from your Analog to digital converter to your PC
PatheinRaindropMoe
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digital signal aint audio signal we are hearing, if theres any data loss in the path its moving, theres latency and data bits drop out/jitter etc, which prolly is deeper than usual tone loss from instrument cable.
Theres interesting infos from both camps in the headfi thread posted.
Theres interesting infos from both camps in the headfi thread posted.
Likui
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yea of course, the digital signal has to be converted into analog b4 you can hear. but the digital signal also plays a part if not why would companies like Acoustic revive would want to isolate the digital signal and the power into 2 diff cables hmm something must be happening there.
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