USB cables

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

heh, interesting to read bout acoustic revive usb cable. I like the info in there, but at the same time, rather happy that music still can be done even generic cable. Another thing that occured to me when reading the info is that their explanation does make sense from typical signal path should isolate with power path, but how does it affect digital data transfer, in an analog manner which we hear as sound, that one, like never say leh

And the funny thing is, i dont even use usb audio interface, its expresscard and firewire for me.

 

[carboxymoron]

if not why would companies like Acoustic revive would want to isolate the digital signal and the power into 2 diff cables hmm something must be happening there.

After reading back and forth I can see that there will be difference in the quality of data due to errors, latency, etc etc. that may affect the final sound in subtle ways, not exactly a simple "tone loss" like Pathein said. That point I give to you. But the answer to this question is very simple: even if there is no difference, companies will always find ways to make money from the high-end market by offering solutions to real or perceived problems. The more you pay, the better you feel, and the better your system will sound to you with $500 cable. Nobody feels good using $10 cable in their $10000 studio.

If my understanding of the problem is right then, proper buffering and checking of the data at both the source and receiving end will minimise these differences in different cables. However it's probably not 100% achievable for real time data transfer (recording or instant playback).

Pathein, I'm sure Firewire also got high end cable for you to worry about!

 

[Likui]

heh, interesting to read bout acoustic revive usb cable. I like the info in there, but at the same time, rather happy that music still can be done even generic cable. Another thing that occured to me when reading the info is that their explanation does make sense from typical signal path should isolate with power path, but how does it affect digital data transfer, in an analog manner which we hear as sound, that one, like never say leh

And the funny thing is, i dont even use usb audio interface, its expresscard and firewire for me.

err the analog signal they never say because that thing doesn't transmit it , you need a digital analog converter. And that device also need to do research on for the best DAC

 

[Likui]

After reading back and forth I can see that there will be difference in the quality of data due to errors, latency, etc etc. that may affect the final sound in subtle ways, not exactly a simple "tone loss" like Pathein said. That point I give to you. But the answer to this question is very simple: even if there is no difference, companies will always find ways to make money from the high-end market by offering solutions to real or perceived problems. The more you pay, the better you feel, and the better your system will sound to you with $500 cable. Nobody feels good using $10 cable in their $10000 studio.

If my understanding of the problem is right then, proper buffering and checking of the data at both the source and receiving end will minimise these differences in different cables. However it's probably not 100% achievable for real time data transfer (recording or instant playback).

Pathein, I'm sure Firewire also got high end cable for you to worry about!

Well if 1 company did something like that to market their product then why is it some ppl would choose acoustic revive cables to locus design or some ppl choose locus design to acoustic revive, or kimber kable to locus design, etc. All these cables have the same kind of crazy price just that why would someone choose 1 over the other, surely there must be some diff in sound

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

err the analog signal they never say because that thing doesn't transmit it , you need a digital analog converter. And that device also need to do research on for the best DAC

i think we are prolly talking on different level, thus perhaps i cant understand the direction of your point or that you didnt get my point(which i think carboxy somehow know what iam refering to)

Its all cool though, as kongwee has mentioned, you can just get different cable and try out yourself and see which usb cable is for you.

 

[blueprintstudios]

sound is in the user, not the gear.

 

[kongwee]

Yup, just try it and keep that secret to yourself.

 

[Likui]

I've AB acoustic revive USB cable with my stock cables that came with the Native instrument audio kontrol 1. The song I used was hotel califonia by the eagles from hell freezes over album.
I find that the acoustic revive has more defined mids and trebles. The guitar sounds sounds thicker. Better headroom, can hear the instrument decay sounds.

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

try using a spectrum analyser vst using the same song with different usb cable with your daw, you have a visible result of whats the differences in the frequency range.

 

[blueprintstudios]

should try recording something with a crap usb, then with your expensive usb, then post up the tracks in original .wav/.aiff and AB.

 

[kongwee]

I think these kind of test very hard to capture. Of cos, I never tired to record. Personally have to try to find out the difference. The best it is have oscilloscope or some kind of EMI tester so it is more convincing to explain through thread. Again do AB testing for yourself and up to you to conclude.

 

[blueprintstudios]

missed out who I was speaking to... less audio from all talk, more audio from recording/postproduction.

Likui : should try recording something with a crap usb, then with your expensive usb, then post up the tracks in original .wav/.aiff and AB.