hey guys. i have seen the meinl cymbals already and i think i do like the hats and in fact i really feel like buying there, besides i know the auntie at ranking and i can get at a real good discount. haha, therefore my choice are rather limited to those stuff sold at ranking. oh wells, maybe i will get the MCS pack set soon i dont know. anyway really, thanks so much for helping. the trojans are good too, mine sucks, well, because they were rejected goods, that, i found out only today. so to those who really want a cheap good cymbal do check out the trojans 
thanks,
melvin

thanks,
melvin