songs .. music or lyrics??

[dimsum]

music is the leathel substane that kills the crowd for you.
i believe when vocals comes in, it adds the cherry on the top.

good tunes can get people hooked.

i dunno about you guys, but i prefer gettting the tune laid out
before i get any lyrics out. the lyrics should cater to the song's mood?

yes? no?

haha actually to come to think of it. it could be the other way round.
hahaha oh wel.

 

[DarknessFury]

Build a song around the music...that's my philosophy...

 

[MebeBebe]

Words & Music can't be separated

Hi!

I personally feel that the lyrics and the music go hand-in-hand to make a good song. You can't have one without the other.

Anyways, what if you had the chance to learn from a professional songwriter? I was thinking of bringing in an established songwriter with 30 year experience from Australia to do some workshops ... if you would like to know more, please look up my thread in this Forum:

"Would you be interested in Songwriting Course?"

MebeBebe

 

[legin]

actually whatever it is.BOTH are just as imp. :wink:

 

[debbieseraphina]

for me, i write the lyrics first. cos i only know how to sing. after writing, i'll pass it on to the musicians for the melody!

 

[faizal_rocks]

Hmm a fact for all of u to consider...lyricist Bernie Taupin will always supply the words to Elton John and EJ will add the music n melody and tadaaahhh...they became hit songs back in the heydays of Elton John hehe...

 

[bongman]

I have been analyzing songs sometime back
and I realised a hit definitely needs a solid good tune
and the lyrics maybe play secondary.

But for critically acclaimed songs, the lyrics must be
of great substance to win an award.

I believe the lyrcis come out first for Bob Dylan.
Whereas, for the Beatles maybe the tunes come out first.

Music or lyrics ?
it's a chicken or egg question ?

 

[Phil]

Sometimes when I listen to metal, I can't even make out what they are saying.
It's definitely the music that decides whether it's a good track or not.

 

[Cheez]

One can tell between a mediocre song from a song that rings in your head. There are so many songs out there and somtimes listening just give you ear fatigue. But that "one song" can ring forever by just listening to it once.

The key, I believe, is to get the lyrics out first. The music brings out the meaning of the song/lyrics. Shouldn't be the other way round. That's why we learn melody writing to lyrics in music theory. We are given some lyrics, we set the timing, look for the mood of the lyrics and decide the key, highlight the climax of the song, decide on phrasings etc, then write the music to bring the lyrics alive.

Music written to bring out lyrics tend to give that added "x" factor. If it's the other way round, it will just sound like another "nice piece of music" with lyrics not making much sense (or wrong syntax etc). No point writing lyrics then - just come out with an instrumental music (of which I will write totally differently since it is not meant to be sung). But unfortunately, most people get music out first. Music meant for playing and music meant for singing are 2 totally different things.