Single or Multi efx pedal?

[mulyadi]

ehm..wat do u mean by go with the mod? hee

mod=modification...=)

heard a friend's modded proco Rat, and it sounded tighter...i'm gg to mod mine after my O's...then i'll be playing like helll after that's over...

 

[Lifehouse]

I'm also thinking of selling my Sansamp GT2 for a RAT. It seems that RAT is better for hard rock. But GT2 does have an insane amount of gain.

 

[PinkSpId3r]

gt2 or the rat sounds more to gun n roses song a?

anyone uses flanger here??

 

[y2k]

To users of the Sansamp Tri-AC, do you guys face any sort of delay when switching from one channel to another? Is there any sort of "popping" on the amp when pressing the footswitch. I read reviews of the Tri-AC and this matter seems to come up frequently.

Hi cereal,

The Sansamp Tri-AC is the best overdrive/distortion pedal i have ever used. Nothing comes close to the sweet distortion sounds that it can produce. That said, there are a couple of issues that you may wanna know before heading out to get one yourself...

1. The unit is amp-dependent (e.g. it sounds different when you play through a 15W solid-state amp when compared to a 100W head). To be frank, when i first tried out this baby at Sinamax, i wasn't exactly impressed by the CALIF setting. Sounded really muddy through the tiny amp i tried it on. The BRIT setting was ok though. When prompted me to buy it was the functionality of having 3-channels at my foot. At home, it sounded a tad better than the DS-1 and MT-2 i was using at the time, which sort of justified the cost of it. It was only when i brought it for jam did i realise the "hidden powers" in this baby. Running through the 100W heads in the jamming studio, the distortion slices through.

2. I had my reservations too when i read abouut the popping. But, to date, i have not experenced it on my unit. Take a listen to my band's song "Dry" at www.lunarin.com. (Btw, the track was recording live) During the intro/verse, i switched from the CALIF setting to the clean setting. Pretty clean switching there, no audible "pop". Mayne some delay. But it could be due to my sloppy playing =)

3. The last problem, and probably the most important one, is the hiss/noise that it porduces when you're not playing. When i replaced the MT-2 with the TRI-AC, i had tremendous amount of noise coming from the unit. To solve the problem, i bought a BOSS NS-2 noise supressor and placed the TRI-AC in the loop. The result: vacuum-tight silence. So, be prepared to get a noise gate, when you decide to get the TRI-AC.

Overall, i'd give this baby a 8/10, probably 9/10 if they solve the noise problem. Its pretty versatile pedal. I dial in a mid-boosted tone on my CALIF channel and a sharper and more trebly setting on the BRIT channel for solos. But, i have tried getting a scooped tone, and the sound comes close to that of pantera/early-metallica. For more mellow songs, you can try to play with the drive, back it off a bit to get a overdrive tone. Hope my input is useful to you.

 

[novocaine]

Tri-ac offers more capabilities than GT-2..same clean and crunch tone though. U cant change ur GT2 settings with a stomp on the footswitch but u can with Tri-ac..u can save different clean or crunch tone to all 3 footswitches as u desire..its good when u need little gain to high gain effect or clean to crunch tone..same quality tone as GT-2 but u gotta pay more...i dunno where u can get this thing..maybe at ginza plaza too..try ask..

Actually I beg to differ a lil', no doubt the tri-ac and gt-2 model 3 amp types, but they do not produce the exact same tones.

I've owned both the tri-ac and gt-2, and the extra switches on the gt2 (MIC placement and MOD switch) make the gt2 slightly more versatile albeit the disability of presets like the tri-ac. Those switches enable a wider spectrum of tones esp for high gain applications. I'd say they add an additional preset equalizing effect. So essentially, the tri-ac and gt-2 are different.

But that being said, both pedals are amazing in their own ways. I use the gt-2 mainly and the tri-ac's been lent. And yes, I agree with y2k about the amount of hissing the pedals make. I, too, put the gt-2 into the loop of the NS-2 together with a couple other tone shaping pedals. Quiet as a cockcroach thereafter. \m/

 

[y2k]

I've owned both the tri-ac and gt-2, and the extra switches on the gt2 (MIC placement and MOD switch) make the gt2 slightly more versatile albeit the disability of presets like the tri-ac. Those switches enable a wider spectrum of tones esp for high gain applications. I'd say they add an additional preset equalizing effect. So essentially, the tri-ac and gt-2 are different.

Hmm. No shit? How versatile are the MIC placement and MOD switches? Actually, i am thinking of getting the GT-2 to spice up my tone palette. Then again, i'm quite turned on by some of the boutique pedals offered by mr misse. :roll:

P.S. The distortion channel on the jekell and hylde pedal sounds damn good man.

 

[PinkSpId3r]

the jekell and hylde pedal is a distortion pedal too?

 

[Lifehouse]

yup. OD + Distortion.

 

[PinkSpId3r]

ooh so compare the Jekyl & Hyde to sansamp gt-2/tri-ac and proco rat 2..which 1 do u think is more versatile for playing different kind of rock songs?

 

[p00n]

would the NS-2 like do anything to your tone? i have a noise suppresser on my amp (vox ad30vt) can it be used together with pedals? to date i havent tried it on the amp as my amp is still fairly new and i dont really have any pedals though a second hand tri ac going for 250 sounds tempting.. hows bass response on the tri ac? i like bassy, heavy distortion but scared it becomes muddy

 

[y2k]

ooh so compare the Jekyl & Hyde to sansamp gt-2/tri-ac and proco rat 2..which 1 do u think is more versatile for playing different kind of rock songs?

Depends on what kind of music you play actually. For me, i chose the TRI-AC over the GT-2 because i wanted multi-channal switching. I needed different distortion tones in different parts of the songs so the TRI-AC works fine.

I love the Jekyl & Hyde's distortion tone. It crunchier and rounder than the TRI-AC's CALIF setting. I found no use for the overdrive setting. Doesn't suit my kind of music. It sounded like a vintage tubescreamer. At 230 bucks, i find it a tad too expensive. (but, if you can find a use for the overdrive setting, why not give it a shot?)

I'd recommend the ProCo DeuceTone instead of the ProCo Rat2. Its like having two Rats at your feet. Check out the soundfiles here. http://www.procosound.com/soundbytesdeuce.htm

 

[y2k]

would the NS-2 like do anything to your tone? i have a noise suppresser on my amp (vox ad30vt) can it be used together with pedals? to date i havent tried it on the amp as my amp is still fairly new and i dont really have any pedals though a second hand tri ac going for 250 sounds tempting.. hows bass response on the tri ac? i like bassy, heavy distortion but scared it becomes muddy

I did not notice any significant change in tone when i put the TRI-AC into my NS-2 loop, although any tone purist out there would have disagreed with me. What i find crucial is the DECAY setting. too low a setting will cause any sustained notes to die out "artificially". Other than that, i have no qualms about the NS-2.

The bass response is good. In fact, I find the EQs on the TRI-AC very responsive in general. You might wanna be wary of the "muddy" problem. I noticed that the TRI-AC sounds muddy when ran through smaller amps (especially solid-state ones). It sounds good only when played through bigger and/or tube amps. Thats my personal experience.

 

[p00n]

thats what i noticed.. the sustain seemed to have decreased quite a little but i thought it was due to my pickup height.. perhaps its the combination of both factors...

hmm would the GT2 have a less problem with the muddiness? or is it worse?

 

[cereal]

Hey Y2k, thanks for the review on the tri-ac. Checked out your bands website, awesome stuff.

And the jekyl and hyde gets a vote frm me too, i'd always like to combine both channels to get that sustained harmonic distortion like in the manual. But i think 230 is quite reasonable. Its like getting two pedals for one.

Pinkspid3r,

Hmmm...that is quite tough, hard to choose between the ones you metioned. The Tri-ac wld rank better since there are 3 diff channels at your feet to choose frm, juz dial in ur preset tone. But as mentioned, have to look into the many factors to get a good tone (getting a noise gate, playing thru tube amps). I guess i'll still go with the jekyll and hyde. It still sounds good thru any amp. At least thru the ones i tried so far.

 

[Kiyoharu]

for good crunch/overdriven/distorted/heavy..i recommend analog Sansamp GT2..if u wanna have add lots of effects to ur music juz link GT2 to ur multifx (Digitech GNX1 or GNX2..good buy for good performance and tone) before or after it..there's no rite or wrong in ur effects order..the order will change ur tone and sound..if u cant wait to get all the effects from those individual, colourful stompboxes..do try dis setup..u save a lot..while using dat setup, maybe u can save slowly and get all those colourful stompboxes. After dat u can consider selling away ur multifx which i dont think u should..

I was wondering if i could connect the Sansamp gt2 to my Korg ax3000g to make use the amp modeling of the Sansamp to further enhance my tone.. Is there anyone who did that before?

 

[audio]

heh my old nick, damnesia. i should use it to name my band.

guys..try both. then u wont have to sell anything.