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hahahhaa blueark! everything not good la? Heh.
But yes, I agree that sub $500, there can be some badly built guitars, though I've come across some gems before. You don't need an expensive guitar to play properly, you just need a properly built one.
 
Aye Moo..... Some (just some) cheap axes sound nice, like that mini J&D axe in Music Theme. The neck pup is UNBELIVABLE. All for like $200. But no way will I use that for recording... :wink:
 
The price is not the issue, its the parts. Some guitars have marked up prices because of their popularity. Supply and demand and all that.

Then some guitars are cheap but are bloody good, they're just cheap cos people don't really know about them or they are not that popular.

If you really know your shit then you can go shop and not worry too much about the price.

But if you don't, then price is a good starting point.
 
ShredCow said:
You are absolutely right on the first point. For the 2nd, then Eric Johnson (and every famous guitarist out there) would be playing the cheapests axes around and saving his dough to buy a nicer house.

hes endorsed, so fender and martin pay him for each of his signature guitars sold:p

theblueark said:
Then some guitars are cheap but are bloody good, they're just cheap cos people don't really know about them or they are not that popular.

If you really know your shit then you can go shop and not worry too much about the price.

like cort guitars :)
 
Viruz said:
U dont need an expensive/famous guitar to sound good.Its all in the player's hand.

You know i used to think the same thing, till i upgraded from my Strat copy. I've seen people using gibson les pauls and playing shit, and people using those superstrat copies and sounding great, shredding great solos. But then it doesn't mean that an average cheap guitar = possibly sounds better than an average expensive guitar.
 
ShredCow said:
BlackMoo said:
Why not? Dual X2N on a J&D, make a video , and show the world cheap guitars can perform! :twisted:

I seriously thought of that. :D

Guess with all that power coming out of the pickup, you dont have much of the guitar shining thru anymore.
 
No man...
But think abt it...

You with a mini on your hips... strutting out to the crowd.. they laugh, they jeer... then you start chugging and all goes silent. :lol:
 
BlackMoo said:
alaineth said:
... since i feel its single coils (or most single coils, for that matter) aren't suited for it.

Ahh Malmsteen and his minions would beg to differ :D

look at iron maiden... superb sound with fender strats with single coils...

and yes.. i think gibson does suck.. prefer burny MIJs...
 
oops.. my bad... fine.. malmsteen it is... but your guitar setup and ur effects and everything also contribute to ur tone...
 
Even malmsteen has models with Hot Rails or similar high output single coils. I tried my single coil strat copy against a good guitar with hums ... The sound really very weak in comparison. I suggest that if you want to play metal, avoid cheap strat copies.
 
Malmsteen uses Stacked humbuckers.

if u want more power - measure the resistance of the pots, and change the pots if necessary. it has come to my attention that for cheap guitars, the pots fall way below 250k, around < 200k, to even 170k.

i would say, if you want to play metal, either 1) use humbuckers 2) shield the guitar well. the main thing about low output coils is how much you can dial before there's too much noise interference.
 
detroit_red said:
I tried my single coil strat copy against a good guitar with hums ... The sound really very weak in comparison. I suggest that if you want to play metal, avoid cheap strat copies.

urm. a strat copy against a good guitar with hums. the comparison isn't fair already, in that case. provided i'm correct in assuming that the strat copy is of a lower range brand, then when u compare it with a good guitar, :?

also, there are aftermarket single coils that are designed with higher output, reduced noise, etc. imho, if a cheap strat copy's playability is good, the owner wouldn't mind upgrading the pups depending on his preferred genre of music.
 
alaineth said:
just don't expect it to play like a shredder guitar or play heavy metal with it, since i feel its single coils (or most single coils, for that matter) aren't suited for it.

i use single coils :lol:
 
somehow i do agree that a cheap guitar when set up properly can play like a dream.. i personally encountered it before.. the bottom line is if u have the cash, get a more expensive guitar.. if not just buy what is within your budget... u try handing down a strat copy guitar to malmsteen or van halen and tell me they can't make that guitar sing!!!!!! :twisted:
 
dhalif said:
i use single coils :lol:

But you don't play heavy heavy metal, more classic metal/rock.. and the single coil bridge doesn't really have a huge chugga sound that a normal humbucker would have. However, a single coil neck pup is very nice even for metal if on a 24 fret neck. If its on a 21/22 fret neck, it might sound too floppy for metal.

I don't think you'll disagree that what I said.

Single coils can do some metal, but its just not in the standard modern metal sound of bands like Nevermore, Soilwork and so on.

Then again... with efx like the Metalzone or digital modelling, they can mask your single coil's tone to make it sound like a generic heavy metal monster. :roll:
 
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