Recommendation of amps?

[unsane]

hey ichiro im recommending the peavey ultra 112 amp. 60 watt tube amp. 3 channels. crunch and ultra share eq. clean has a seperate eq. its a discontinued model. can get one for under 1.5k. im planning on getting one by the end of this month. it has amazing tone. the alternative is to get the peavey tripleX which is de equivalent except tt the tripleX has 3 channels and 3 eq. hope this helps

agreed. i have the ultra 112 and its nothing short of amazing. the amp weighs and absolute tonne though and it does tend to run a little hot. i have a fan blowing at the tubes to cool it down..

 

[empty71]

example: I bet if you get Steve Vai to do a sound clip on a Samick Strat Copy S$200 guitar, the guitar will surely sound like heaven.

Heehee... I guess I just a proponant of actually seeing and touching, my faith is in God, but not on what is produced by the hands of man.

Sorry but I doubt Vai would sound good with a Samick Strat copy. The one thing I admire about Vai is that he's stuck with Ibanez thru all these years. The guy gets a ton of free guitars and gear thrown his way and he gets to pick and choose anything he wants but he's loyal.

Most of the on-line sound samples are very accurate reproductions of the "actual" tone. Most websites also state the amp setting, type of guitars used, mic positions but I do have to agree it's better to actually play or use the products before one starts to rave about them.

 

[Cavett]

Side track abit:
To those who might have seen the Ibanez/Tama anniversary video featuring Vai, Timmons and Gilbert, will have witness an "off day" for Vai... His tone was very very bad and he broke a string to add to that... So goes to show that even Guitar Heroes r human and that not all equipments that they play will sound gd.. Oh yah, he was playing a Bogner amp then and Timmons totally outshine the other two players with his tone alone...

:wink:

 

[Praetorian]

Sorry but I doubt Vai would sound good with a Samick Strat copy.

i have to disagree with you there, man.

One reason why Vai sounds like Vai and nobody else, no matter how good, will sound exactly like Vai, is due to his fingers.

It is unexplainable, but something about Vai's fingers creates the tone he is so famous for. Give vai a guitar, any guitar, and he will sound magnificent. That's what i feel.

 

[BlackMoo]

Omg its mr.quaker!!!

 

[Praetorian]

Omg its mr.quaker!!!

:?

 

[mikemann]

I agree with Praetorian.

I still stand by my comments, Mr Vai WILL make a S$200 stock Samick sound like heaven.

Maybe not as heavenly as it will sound with a custom (>$5000)JEM, but I think I can safely bet, he can still make it sound as its "still in heaven" by anyone opinion.

 

[seekz]

well.. have to give vai his amp stack and his racks and all his fx too.
a 200 samick is not enuf.

 

[Praetorian]

well.. have to give vai his amp stack and his racks and all his fx too.
a 200 samick is not enuf.

Um, no...

EFX simply make a lousy player sound decent, a decent player sound good, and a good player sound excellent.

Get Vai a $200 Samick, and say, a $300 amp. He will make it sound beautiful. Believe me. His entire racks and stuff just make him sound better.

 

[seekz]

you give slash a Samick strat and a fender bullet. Tell me how to get his tone...

 

[Praetorian]

aS mikemann and i both mentioned, its through the fingers.

he wont sound exactly like slash i grant you that.

but he will make the samick sound much better than any of us can.

 

[seekz]

unless.... slash is not considered.. a "better" player lah..

i think in the signal chain can switch a few things, maybe can switch the guitars a bit. but its not simply just in the fingers.

 

[Praetorian]

you dont get the point...

a simple chain.

a lousy player makes a lousy guitar sound like shit.

a good player makes a lousy guitar sound decent.

a guitar god like vai, or even slash, can make a lousy guitar sound great.

vai -> guitar -> amp.

nothing inbetween. but yeah. thats what mike and i feel. you're free to dispute. don't lets start another fareri thread wannabe, shall we?

 

[seekz]

I cant believe the size of your heart... Still bringin up that matter.

well i'm just saying that Vais signal chain is not as simple as you would think. Changing the guitar wont affect it TOO much. But no doubt it he will sound good. but he will definitely sound different.

 

[Praetorian]

well i'm just saying that Vais signal chain is not as simple as you would think. Changing the guitar wont affect it TOO much. But no doubt it he will sound good. but he will definitely sound different.

That is true, no doubt about it.

But what we're talking here is, let me give you a scenario,

Vai walks into a guitar shop, picks up a $200 guitar, and asks to test it out. Note, he is in the shop, and uses the guitar plugged directly into a test amp. There is something about Vai, in this case his fingers, that will make that $200 samick sound helluva lot better than most of us ever will.

 

[Weiht]

EFX simply make a lousy player sound decent, a decent player sound good, and a good player sound excellent.

I somewhat disagree... a gd efx may not always make a lousy player gd. A sloppy player playing thro Vai's clean channel with his g-force chorus, will have all his mistakes revealed!!! Even playing dirty channel is not just push the gain up n whack... if the guy have no picking dynamics, he will just sound like mud...

I not saying cuz im v gd... but cuz i was like that... haha but slowly improving.

having his setup doesnt make you sound like him... His tone is in his fingers and his heart feel is just unique to himself. He uses his emotions quite alot, thats why when u listen to tender surrender, it like a emo rollercoaster, oe moment to calm then so angry.

can he make a cheap guitar sound good thro a normal amp... YES!!! i read many accounts when guitarist reveals that they record their solo thro a cranked little 15-20w amp.

Many times they make it sound like they can only play the best with their guitar or setup is because they are under contract. Like van halen endorses peavey, but many say that backstage he cranks the marshall for his tone. Many artist put full stacks on stage, but they are not even on. Like Billy Gibbons claims to use many pedals n efx, but really they are just on stage for show n endorsements. Haiz

Well, the guitar n setup are just tools to the real master at work.

However im not discounting to wonders of what EFX n AMPs can do for me man!!! oh how i long for my plexi head n marshall cabs n a prs n a 60s strat and a blackface bassman and fulltone tube tape echo and original ts808 one day... mesa would be gd too, but i heard bogner high gain make the mesa sound normal.

hope i didnt offend anyone

 

[Weiht]

well saying so much i even forgot the original subject of the thread.

1stly, i got to ask you what type of amp you looking for? Clean with lots of headroom or a high gain amp? i got a bassman 135, and this thing doesnt break up without a od pedal. i will go deaf b4 it breaks up if i crank it. But im happy with the tone n power of the amp, tho i also would like a marshall head for some tube od. so it really your choice.

2nd, tube or ss or hybrid? tube is really abt the warmth n tone that is unrivalled. The way the tubes breaks up is really unmatched. Peadls generally sound excellent in ttube amps... however, maintenance is a hassle. Changing tubes, rebiasing, even switching it on must be done properly. SS are hassle free, but doesnt sound as warm, but i have heard great sparkling cleans from rolands ss amps. Hybrid amps are tricky... some say having a tube preamp has got minimal effect on the tone, as most of the tone comes from the power tube saturation... how true im not sure, but those coments come from the pros in the industry... if you can find a ss preamp n tube power amp section , that wld be better (but rather get full tube then rite). Anything with tubes in it today would jack the price up, that why there is so many tube pedals (But what can 9v do to the tube really? Maybe just make it glow n have us think its working).

well 1.5k can get you pretty good amps really... try the top end laneys like the VH or VR series, they r v v gd, but the resale value may not be there as they r undervalued. Fenders are gd too for cleans, i think everyone knows it... im not a peavey fan so i cant comment.

hope that helps

 

[Mr_X]

The Transtube 212 to my opinion should be a more powerful version to the Bandit II of Peavey's transtube range. If you are just using it for home and small gig, the bandit will suffice for you get the same thing abet a smaller package only. 80watts is plenty of power, and these can chug out awesome output.

Eh, this is reccomending amps, not debate about vai-plays-samick. So let's stick to the topic shall we?

Wondering if this is the amp that swee lee make everyone plays the guitar through. Cause if it is, it's surely one kick as amp. I've been to SL to try and never buy anything, this amp makes plenty of guitar sounds good. The distortion is solid. But i cannot remember how the clean sounds like so, for this amp i can only say the distortion is really good.