Recommend me pick-ups

[ShredCow]

Dimarzio Evos aren't bright and middy. Their bright and cutting. Excellent when you need to cut thru, like in a solo. But darkballa's looking for a neck pup, the neck Evos is different from the bridge Evo. The neck Evo is not middy.

Hmmmm... Darkbella, check out a recent post in Gear Section about the Dimarzio Humbucker From Hell. There's a link there with a sound clip. Check it out.

 

[pooo]

Duncan JB

+1

 

[darkballa]

i checked out the HB from hell and at the PRS site you could hear a sound clip of the tremonti treble, maybe you guys can listen to it and recommend me a pick-up that sounds familiar?

P.,S.

Scratch what i said about bright and middy i think the tremonti treble is bright and higs

 

[Vaiyen]

so you want to look for a pickup tt sounds similar to the tremonti?

 

[penguin]

bro wat guitar effects u use?
i believe u need to tweak it in order to get the "tone.."

who knows u might not need to get the new pus at all
as for the uber...thats pretty tough to get the tone..

if u need more treble get a 1meg vol pot and change ur tone caps ..to 0.01mf.that might help.. Duncan distortion neck version shld be able to complement the X2n..its fierce sounding...trust me

i`ve use dimarzio X2n in 2 diff guitars and the tone are like night n day..
a)neckuncan duncan distortion bridge:X2n(RG2820TW)
b)neck hot rails bridge X2n (Rg540s)
both magahony body

 

[ShredCow]

Scratch what i said about bright and middy i think the tremonti treble is bright and higs

I didn't go listen, not a fan of tremonti at all... but did you listen to the Humbucker from Hell clip? It might be what you want.

Its highs and bright, with excellent cleans to boot.

 

[penguin]

click to this http://www.mark-tremonti.com/video/NAMM2005shred.wmv

 

[ShredCow]

i checked out the HB from hell and at the PRS site you could hear a sound clip of the tremonti treble, maybe you guys can listen to it and recommend me a pick-up that sounds familiar?

Oops.. didn't see this. So what did you think of the HFH?

 

[ShredCow]

click to this http://www.mark-tremonti.com/video/NAMM2005shred.wmv

Ah... thats tremonti with a wah on all the way.

 

[penguin]

hmnm just trying to an idea wats the tone like ..

well this link might help http://www.mark-tremonti.com/video/

but i feel too much treble is not cool..its kinda dry... more mid is better..

 

[ShredCow]

Okay, I heard some clips and I feel that the Dimarzio neck pup that has the closest tone to Tremonti's is the Evolution Neck.

The HFH is too single coil sounding and its only a medium power humbucker, it might not be able to give you the saturation that you need.

An evolution neck is like tremonti's neck pup tone.

 

[darkballa]

ok thanks for the help shredcow but just a few more questions?

compare the Evolution neck and the Alnico Pro II

Compare X2n and the JB Model

thanks for all the help

 

[penguin]

from my experience the X2N has a more warm tone compared to the jb.
and it has good harmonics...

anyway it depends on ur setting as well..

as for the evolution and Alnico..i really dunno but i feel the alnico is warmer

 

[ShredCow]

The X2N shreds the JB to little bits in terms of pure output power. It drives everything into maximum overdrive.

Think of the X2N is to passives what an EMG81 is to actives. Its disgustingly powerful BUT it retains a very interesting clean tone... not sterile but kind of edgy, slightly twangy and very very cutting clean. If split, it does funk well! Plus, when distorted, it actually captures dynamics reasonably well for a pup thats so overwound. It looks cool too. :twisted:

The Evo neck is definately not warm... its tight, cutting, cold, hard. Its meant to cut thru a mix, and give a tight low end with excellent harmonics. Its not for everyone, more of personal taste but if you want a live application pup to cut thru, this is it.

 

[penguin]

Daniel hav u ever use the Duncan Jb?i feel ur comments are not that accurate..
well if u love treble go for JB or duncan distortion...these pups can squeak up harmonics real easy..
but i would refrain fitting the jb or the duncan distortion in a maple fretboard..for fear of getting too much treble..
X2n has a more balance tone and i like the mid..i would not say that its that powerfull..a few db in terms of loudness can easily be compensated..

if i were u mr dark, i`ll put the jb or duncan distortion on the neck and x2n at the bridge..the evo just doesnt cut it... the rest is up to ur fingers and other equiptment...

 

[Vaiyen]

I might be wrong, but I don't think the JB is meant for the neck.

 

[BlackMoo]

Output.is.not.everything.

 

[ShredCow]

Daniel hav u ever use the Duncan Jb?i feel ur comments are not that accurate..

Nope, I've never used it... but yes, its is true that the X2N would shred the JB in terms of output. Really.. I have the X2N and on a dead clean channel, it will distort it if you hit the strings harder. And if you place it with other pups, chances are, you will have to lower the X2N in order to compensate for its powerful..

But you are right, the X2N is balanced... i didn't notice that it was middy though... the DImarzio tone chart doesn't state it is too... i find it more balanced, and if your guitar is mahogany or some middy wood, then the X2N will take on a more middy character...

I dunno abt the JB still thought...hehe.... so yeah, X2N for pure, ridiculous over the top power..

 

[subversion]

individual pickup has its inherent characteristics. we often read discussions of how one pickup would out-do another in terms of a specific frequency & output. we shouldn't place performance conclusion based on these, especially when we compare units of different brands. Dimarzio's X2N is one of the highest output passive humbucker out there but by virtue of this attribute, it doesn't mean that it'll beat the life out of a Duncan JB. it doesn't work this way.

it's all about you, the player- what would you like to hear?

a little on the Duncan JB (no it's not a Jeff Beck endorsed pickup, he's using Fender...). this humbucker has a certain reputation for being midrange inclined which would appeal to many players in a specific context. i'd like to cite 2 players who would best represent what the JB is capable of:

Frank Gambale

Samoth

the JB is primarily a bidge humbucker but there's nothing wrong with putting it in the neck position. in fact, there's a cult following of players who actually swear by this pickup in the neck. at one point in time, i actually did likewise & found the tone to be very stinging, absolutely superb for solos. however, the pickup in this position does not manifest a true neck characteristic, there isn't an inherent rounded tone to be heard.

 

[darkballa]

I think im set between Alnico/JB or distortion and Evo/X2n

thanks for the big help guys.