Recent influx of eye candy gear

[nickyseow]

you know what, shred, i fully support you.

you know, all you people out there who think that people deserve gear if and only if they use it to UP their already leet toneferdayz, and if they play live and all, then the use of such higher end gear is merited.. who are you to despise bedroom wankers who find aural delight in what they hear?

who cares if you think that they are wasting their money and time collecting and sampling gear, instead of working on their chops? who cares?

i for one, dont.

to each his own, look at markom, and a lot of posters with pristine boards at TGP. filled with damn boutique tu lan gear, sometimes im awestruck, sometimes, i just shake my head and exclaim "damn corksniffers.."

gear is gear, no matter who uses it. and lets leave this place to discuss it, name drop it, diss it, what ever.

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[Midnight]

I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE EVEN THE GADGETS!! :twisted:

 

[nickyseow]

SAHASLALA OVERDRIVE + VOX is FOR THE BLUEZZZZ

 

[ShredCow]

Heh. Well Nicky dude bro... (woah, I said dude and bro together!) music is meant to be enjoyed. So... do what it takes to inspire you and share with others what made your day.


I don't know about you guys but when I pick up a guitar that plays beautifully, allows me to translate my notions into motion... I just want to play more. Huge smile on face and all.
Hence, I'm glad people POST about what makes them tick.


Then there are a period of time, if some of you recall, SOFT suddenly had a HUGE influx of .... newbies. Many of them posted, asking for help and advice and... many never contributed back. Remember that period?
Hence, I'm glad its not like that now... a good number of people POST about what makes them tick.


So, yeah, more ppl with nice gear - many of them are SOFTies who have been around for some time. They are no longer kids.

Here is an opportunity to bring SOFT up one level.

TGP might be "decadent" when it comes to gear whoring but within that sprawling forum - there's some excellent information to be found. People discussing the finer aspects of amp tweak-age, gushing about and giving accurate reviews of new gear, providing some insane technical know-how on things that have never seen the light here...

I find more joy in learning than bothering about the few who have turned into ... well... spoilt, rich guitar holders?

So yeah. I like the change that is happening in this gear section.

 

[j_m_s]

well its subjective really.

I dont think one must have this level of skill to have this amount of gear. Why do you care so much that someone aint the best at playing but has good gear? Is he spending your money? Or are you Jealous?

I dont think im that good skillwise but im finding my own tone. I dont think theres anything wrong with someone who's finding his/her own tone. If you have the moolah to do so. Buy what you want. Dont think twice. Dont look back. if you dont, save up for it.

I think Nicky bro and shreddymoo got the main point already.

In my opinion, if you are unhappy that someone else has better gear than you, and that you play better than him, you are envious of him. Simply being jealous. It aint yo smackeroonies being blown on that oh so bootttteeeeeeek stuff that guy has. So why do you bother to flame him and diss him?
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[guitarsan]

If you got da good stuff.....FLAUNT it! 8)

 

[keithC]

hmm i have a friend, who's much more talented in guitar than me... but he only owns a strat and a nice acoustic, no pedals, no wadever distortion or pro amp.
then we were both thinking and debating over gear vs skills...
finally we concluded,

there are diff kinds of guitar players... some love what they play more, and some love what they hear more. hope i make some sense?

 

[nickyseow]

sama sama, maju kehadapan

 

[THOA]

In my opinion, if you are unhappy that someone else has better gear than you, and that you play better than him, you are envious of him. Simply being jealous. It aint yo smackeroonies being blown on that oh so bootttteeeeeeek stuff that guy has. So why do you bother to flame him and diss him?

Was there a part in my post (or anyone's post for that matter) that questioned the need for gear flaming or dissing anyone in particular? If there is then I am sorry.

Quite frankly for me, I know what I want and need for the purpose of the music I am making. Pretty much my direction to my choice of gear is made up. Granted, I can get a little distracted by things that people have. But no, I don't feel the need to pursue something just cos some musician, store or friend has it.

Also I have been doing computer music for a few years, doing stuff on my pc using budget and free softwares with budget gears. I think through thise times I learned to really work on whatever little that I have and really push it to the max. So new more powerful softwares or technology means little to me. My set up currently is STILL simple enough. Cos that is all I need.

I think I have brought this mentality to my thoughts on guitars and guitar gears as well.

However, I have now understood that the reason for having so many guitars and so many gears: It is purely for the satisfaction of a guitarist find their tone. Thank you everyone for enlightening me on that. That is one piece of the puzzle solved. :smt023

Now, what I am trying to understand here is the reasons for having something just for a few months and then letting it go thereafter at a lower price. I think it's fine if you are spending their own money. But sometimes this habit of GASing for something, acquiring it and letting go, while mom and dad pays for everything is... rather unhealthy?

I dunno what exactly what I am trying to drive at, really. Perhaps trying to emphasise the point that owning a gear is not as important as owning a tone?

Bah, I can see this discussion getting endless. I should just end my rant here :lol:

 

[ShredCow]

You can look at the multitude of gear/guitar from a wider angle I suppose?

Its true: why so many? For TONE.

But that statement is ... too concise.

If you expand upon that, then well, I'd think it makes more sense.

Its even more interesting to note how... gear influences your sound, your playing... essentially, how gear IMPACTS tone.




Hehehe... the rest of your post, THOA, there will be no end to it.

 

[THOA]

Hehehe... the rest of your post, THOA, there will be no end to it.

I get ya. So let's not start... :lol:

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

Its even more interesting to note how... gear influences your sound, your playing... essentially, how gear IMPACTS tone.

i hand up leg up agree!

let us progress beyond looking at pic and start to wonder how the instrument fit in the big picture of music/sound and ways to capture thats sound!


and yeah, jms, do post your tone/music if theres any chance. I is love to check out.

 

[stranger12]

hmmm

Hmmm... don't think the gear one gets should be the centre of attention. Seriously, I'm not a very good player.. But I just love nice guitars.. Be they nice sounding, nice looking or whatever it doesn't matter.

I just feel happy looking at it.. I rather be looking at it than looking at my ever diminishing bank account.. heh heh.. Maybe I decieve myself.. but for me all the nice big brand guitars I buy, I look forward to having my son or daughter feeling blessed to be surrounded by 'smashing' guitars.. heh..

So if you've got the moolah, go get that ridiculously expensive Customshop that you've always wanted.. heh..

Rock on!.. heh..

 

[nickyseow]

actually, i'd like to work towards a recording set up. what should I get?

mike? some sort of mini mixer? then how to process into the com?

can someone teach me?

 

[j_m_s]

process into com. theres a few diff ways i guess.

Line out from amp with 1/4 jack into 1/8 converter into com. Not the best sound.

Or get a audio interface. The line6 toneport is a popular choice i think.

If you want to mic up your amp, i think most people go with the Shure SM 57 mic. And for vocals the standard recommendation is a Shure sm58? Correct me if im wrong there.

In addition to this i read that placing the mic at diff parts of the amp will give you a diff tone as well!.

 

[THOA]

There are two ways to record a guitar: mic and direct.

Mic: Basically putting a mic at your. Shure SM 37 is somewhat the standard for mic-ing. So the chain will be:

guitar > amp > mic > mixer > pc

Direct: Basically connecting a guitar directly to pc via a DI unit and mixer chain.

guitar > DI > mixer > pc

Of course all these things you have to take account that your soundcard has to be able to support the kind of jacks your cable is using. Of course you can always use adaptors.

More about DI units:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DI_unit

These days, though, there are plenty of products that is like all-in-one: soundcard, DI and stomp fx and amp emulators.

The advantage is that you cut the signal chain down eliminating noise. Goes something like that:

guitar > fx unit > pc

The newer multi fx like PodXTlive and GT-8 has amp AND fx built in and allows you to connect straight to PC via USB. If you don't care so much about the built in fx ie you use your own pedals, then just get a POD which is pretty much an amp emulator with little fx.

Even stuff like Toneport UX 1 and UX 2 allows you to record guitar, bass AND vocals. These, btw, have their own built in amps, pre amps and fx too, but are cheaper than multifx. The signal chain is also minimal:

guitar > toneport > pc

There are plenty of other hardware you can check out but these are the ones that I am very sure about.

 

[THOA]

In addition to this i read that placing the mic at diff parts of the amp will give you a diff tone as well!.

Yes.

Placing the mic at at the center of the amp gives a very harsh tone. The standard is usually to place it off-axis ie a little off to the side.

But mic placement is purely subjective. It's something you have to try for yourself. Metallica's Black Album, for example, has 2 mics being used: one at the front and one at the back.

Also, I would like to ask you how clean do you want the recording to be? Cos when using the mic, you have to consider also your room's acoustic, and any other noises that might ruin your recording eg traffic.

 

[nickyseow]

this is a good read.. I've heard of the tone port, so, essentially i can just mike my amp up, then mikeout->toneport->pc ?

 

[j_m_s]

path bro. i will someday. when i get something to record with.

Nicky, i asked a qn like that on a thread in the recording forum on tgp. waiting for a reply now.

The toneport has 2 models.

The simpler one has 1 1/4" input and 1 XLR input

 

[THOA]

You don't even need a mic. Not even a mixer. Just guitar > toneport > pc.

Give these a look:

http://line6.com/toneportgx/

These are the simplest Toneport unit. It's like a DI Box with preamp. There's only 1 input for guitar/bass (1/4" jacks; stereo), but if that is all you need, this is the way to go.

http://line6.com/toneportux1/ and http://line6.com/toneportux2/

These are almost the same as the GX. But they have have guitar/bass (1/4" jacks; stereo) as well as added inputs for mics (XLR). You can direct with these as well, but if you ever wanna try messing around with mics for your guitar instead of going direct, then you should get these.

Btw, I personally own a UX2 and am lovin it