Playing by ear??

Ikiru

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I've been looking around and can't seem to find what I want to know, and the search function won't cooperate because 'ear' is less than 4 words, lol...

I'm wondering how or more like, what I can do to train my ear to be able to recognize what chords are being played, strumming patterns or basically figure out the guitar parts of a song? Are there any music theory I should be familiar with as well?

Sure I could use google, but I also wanted to know the experiences of you guys or anyone who attempts to play music or transcribe music by ear. How is it like at first..etc.

Thanks.
 
I've been looking around and can't seem to find what I want to know, and the search function won't cooperate because 'ear' is less than 4 words, lol...

I'm wondering how or more like, what I can do to train my ear to be able to recognize what chords are being played, strumming patterns or basically figure out the guitar parts of a song? Are there any music theory I should be familiar with as well?

Sure I could use google, but I also wanted to know the experiences of you guys or anyone who attempts to play music or transcribe music by ear. How is it like at first..etc.

Thanks.

Not sure if I can answer your Q, but I'll try to share my experience.

For me, playing by ear is my biggest asset. I started off playing the guitar without any understanding of music theory, but I soon realised that I really just wanted to play stuff that I heard on the radio, or tunes that were in my head. I familiarised myself with the basic chord shapes/progressions (I started with G,C,D and A,D,E, which basically are the same progression in 2 different keys) and some substitutions/variants, and just mucked around with them till I could belt out simple tunes using various combis of them. It helped that I had a singing background, and loved music, so more often than not I was trying to put down on guitar what I heard in my head. With the progression above, I was able to conjure up many of the songs I knew, and that fueled my desire to learn more chords to play more songs. I proceeded to learn several other commonly used chord progressions, but I honestly found most of my way ard by using my ear, rather than charts and theory sheets.

I went on to listen to records that I liked, and analysed the guitar rhythm sections, particularly how the guitars were strummed. I also tried to watch videos of rhythm guitarists that I admired, and tried to emulate the same strumming patterns they used. Soon after, I was combining my knowledge of chords and strumming patterns to play a whole bunch of songs on the radio. The thing is to keep listening and trying/practising.

If you already know the basic chord shapes, I would encourage your learning of the CAGED system, which really helps you understand the various possible shapes/positions on the fretboard for a single chord, and helps familiarise you with the fretboard. Youtube and google should be extremely useful.

There is some truth in the notion that some ppl have an easier time with playing by ear than others. Some are caught up in theory, and can do amazing shreds in whatever diminished key you stipulate, but are seemingly lost as soon as you ask them to play along to a random tune without telling them what key it's in. To me, a gd balance of the theory and the ability to play by ear is quintissential to a guitarist's success.
 
Maybe you didn't really answer my questions, but you provided some insight :) Thanks!

I guess I'm familiar with chords as in C,D,E,G,A, Am, Em, Dm..etc? But I probably should start knowing some theory too. I find it very difficult to understand though, which can really make me feel frustrated with the guitar, but that's just me. The best I can do when trying to figure out a song is play it's melody note by note, starting with slow ballads since it's less complicated. It that a way to start out in training my listening?
 
Well, take a look into the way classical player train their ear.

There's a test in the practical piano (or any other instrument) exams that goes like this... play 1st note, play 2nd note - now, tell me the interval between the 2 notes. Interval is like distance.

In music theory, we have names for the intervals... minor 2nd, major 2nd, minor 3rd, major 3rd, etc etc.

Classical musicians seek to develop "relative pitch" where based on one note, one can quickly and efficiently "decode" the rest of the notes being played.



Lets bring it over to a young boy, no formal music training, sitting in his room, trying to decipher a Metallica song... now we all know, Metallica's songs are all in the same key. (hehe) So how would you go about it?

You listen to the song... the riffs. Stop the track. Take guitar figure out what is that 1st note played in the riff... then from there, its a hit & miss affair till you get the notes.

Fast forward after figuring out a few metallica songs... you do same thing, get the 1st note - That's all you need! Familiar with how the intervals sound (there are plenty of cliche intervals used in metal/metallica), you quickly tear the song apart.

Something like that.
 
yeah the most imp part is not giving up.

music theory many times make me wanna give up.
well actually i did and it is NOT a good thing.
now i just play by ear. be comfortable with playing something.
try absorbing theory slowly.
everybody has his/her own way right.

are there great guitarists who dont know theory?
i guess not. they would sure know at least abit.
cant imagine they go write tabs altheway.
 
and oh finding 3letter word is this forum is as easy as putting * at the back and/or front of the word.
in ur case type:
*ear*
 
Nice, I agree on never giving up. Can take breaks la, but giving up is a no-no if I want to be a good musician, yeah? :P

Btw, I know nuts about music theory, and I wonder what I should start to know (and where I can find them), like that CAGED system mentioned or something. I think I should learn theory whenever I don't feel like being practical.
 
and many others I suppose? I think it is important to bear in mind that music theory is a human invention and just a way to explain music. It is definitely beneficial to learn it but it would be wise not to be overly dependent. The ear is a musician's best tool.
 
u mean they donoe what notes are?
practical i mean, just play!! as long as nice can oredi!

but really? Clapton and 'many others' donoe nuts? even notes? chords?
wow. at least i see some light that we dont HAVE to learn theory.
it helps us, no doubt.

being good doesnt need us to know theory?
anybody wanna object?
 
One of the best song writers around James Taylor cant read or write music but he has penned some great songs....

It's in the soul.

Im a bad reader and play by ear
 
i tot hendrix didnt know much about theory.i know few stuff about theory but i still feel my way thru if i write something.
 
That's why there is only one Hendrix or one Tommy Emmanuel amongst the hundreds of thousands of musicians. Same reason why we don't find many Han Zimmers around. These people who say they don't have "formal" music training are prodigies. We are not them. They actually do have theory already developed in their heads, although not formalised. That doesn't mean they don't use theory. If they have formal training, their level will shoot up more.

But many don't realise this and take it as anybody can do it without the hard work. And that's why most of us have reached our limit and will stay at that level for a long time. Until we realise that it's time to do more hard work to break the plateau. This is also the reason why most music we hear nowadays just give us ear fatigue. Nothing fresh. Nothing new under the sun.
 
But many don't realise this and take it as anybody can do it without the hard work. And that's why most of us have reached our limit and will stay at that level for a long time. Until we realise that it's time to do more hard work to break the plateau. This is also the reason why most music we hear nowadays just give us ear fatigue. Nothing fresh. Nothing new under the sun.

I'm inclined to agree with you wholeheartedly.
 
theories has it limits too.... some musician broke the limit i guess they split them into 2...

sounding right.... and sounding nice....

it just how ppl appreciates it :)
 
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