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There are guys out there who are not your usual guitar magazine money shot people but have technique or phrasing or something cool we all can learn from.

This thread are for those unsung or even stared at ad-nauseum in a tiny youTube video trying to see where their fingers go.

Lets expand each others guitar vocabulary, list out the no so usual guys that our younger seedlings can listen to (or watch in this day and age), and uncover something new. Do write out a thing or two about these guys that we can focus on.

Trey Anastasio (Phish) - His timing and rhythm guitar style, his song crafting and his impeccable phrasing with stock blues or major scales. Even his arpeggios are killer when he wants to.

Jerry Donahue (Hellecasters) - Go master his bending technique, and you will be in demand anywhere.

Brad Paisley - How can we ignore those quirky notes choices, G-bending and overall Margarita soaked chicken fried shredding? And a career image and personality to learn from?

Paul Gilbert (Mr.Big/Racer X) - No matter what style you play, he can teach you something. Even its a 32th note blaze phrase, you can somehow improve something in your playing. Yes everyone knows him but he's one we cant miss out.

Vito Bratta (White Lion) - I dare say his tapping has just so much more life then the originators.

Brent Mason - He can do anything he wants, but on a record, its just the notes that matter.

Steve Lukather (Toto) - Look beyond Toto, and into his session work

Micheal Landau - When he jams, it's just his own.

Dave Fuczinsky (Screaming Headless Torsos)- Jaw dropping. Fretless work, soundscapes unheard of all in a jazz-punk thingy that's just funky

Larry Carlton - Tone tone tone. And oh yeah he can PLAY.

Tomo Fujita - Karate funk that i've been trying to get down but man.... where's my timing?


Do add on your heroes and lets all take a bit from the masters and get our own style going~
 
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the dweebs in the guitars mags are IMO there because they are the flavour of the moment, more than anything else...
 
Oh yes that vid had me learning some new twist to old tricks! thanks for a excellent Howe show!

creative use of a sweat band/hair band haha. And he chicken picks his licks, something I do too since i cant sweep like a St.Regis chambermaid. The finger switching yet same note thing is cool too a 80s virtuoso B.B King thing eh?
 
Paul Gilbert - lesson: you don't have to wear sleeves of tattoo, spill vulgarities and have song lyrics filled with hate, destruction and death to play heavy metal. You can look like a regular bloke AND have monstrous technique..
 
Yeah, Greg Howe is an incredible player!

Also, Guthrie Govan. Extremly versatile, skillfull, and everything he do is just crazy. Absolutely worth to check for anyone who likes guitar :)
 
The Guitar Pantheon are usually filled with those guys, and are usually in the cover of every guitar publication there is.
That being said, their musicians of the highest order and striving for their mastery of the instrument as well as of music should be a serious musician's priority!

Do list out the lesser know folks who has that individuality and technique we all can take a little but in. If these so called 'C-list' or more 'ordinary' players have that little spark we may lack, I don't see why we cant have out own little spark that stands out~
Also we need people whom we can learn from by hearing or seeing them.

MAB sweeping is just the cleanest thing ever, Petrucci has the discipline of a monk and Vai has that individuality thats unbashful and full of emotions when he wants to.

Keep the sharing flowing~
 
Bonamassa is a monster! Along the same vein could be Warren Haynes or a bluesier Eric Johnson I dare say hehe.... Another fellow with those unique blues chops is a gospel player, Lincoln Brewster. His jams lights a fire in your fingers to start something on the strings..

Chris Bergson - New York 355 slinger who should be the next Mayer-Buble-Duffy combination. Anyone with his CD, PM me!

Tommy Castro - Funkilicious San Francisco star who has been leading his club band successfully forever. Full of R&B and straight up blues funk, or funky blues, whichever you prefer =]

Jimmy Thackery - Seemless blues player who just has ideas and notes coming out everywhere and all those funky 7th chords stabs and an all out blues force.
 
Breen said:
music should be a serious musician's priority!
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Unfortunately, this isn't exactly the most common thing to be found. Most guitarists you meet are more involved with technique and speed. Or are probably gearheads. Or just like to listen to themselves. Many of them don't have good composition skills. They just play what they think is nce, and often, it sounds like rubbish.

For example: What's the difference between Steve Morse and Kirk Hammett? Steve Morse has extremely notable compositions. His fans know him by his music and style, other than just his playing. Kirk Hammett? He's the lead guitarist in Metallica, where the songs are written by Hetfield and Ulrich. Nothing more, nothing less.

What separates someone like Carlos Santana and the latest, fastest shredder? Go try recording a decent version of Europa by yourself and playing a different melody, keeping the mood throughout the track, yet exercising colourful, soulful phrasing. You'll find it's harder to pull off than you think. Vai actually planned to record a duet with him. That says something...

Jeff Beck is another like this. He's known for his killer technique, but he's got some killer compositions that fans will always want to hear.

These guys can not just phrase a killer solo, but write a killer piece of music.

But how many Santanas, Claptons, Knopflers and Becks are there? Unfortunately, not many.
 
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Well Hendrix has the attitude, soul and well, hair. But lets be fair we all can learn a little something from everyone right?

Even the most pretentious, assholic player out there who only throws down diminished sweeps after m7b5 arpeggio, we can look at him and go, hey, I'm glad I only play blues that no one wants to hear but I know theres some soul in there, not a empty vessel.

Not that diminish sweeping are assholic, nor blues unpopular, nor m7b5's unsoulful, but I hope we get the picture =]

And yes, composition is something I struggle, I wank notes all the time, play things people don't get, and try to be fast-fast without the musicality. Thanks for putting it out for me! Will go play cowboy chords now........
 
Breen said:
Well Hendrix has the attitude, soul and well, hair. But lets be fair we all can learn a little something from everyone right?
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there's nothing you can learn from Hendrix. I'm just curious what it is, since many people say he's a great source of influence, but you hardly hear his influence coming thru many younger players today.

But again, Hendrix wasn't just a guitar player. He was a musician, composer, entertainer, performer and singer. He had the whole package. So, when we say we learn from Hendrix, what exactly do ppl pick up?:confused:

I wouldn't know, because he's not one of my key influences.:mrgreen:
 
Whitestrat - I do agree with you that (it seems like) many people nowadays blindly quote Hendrix as their influences, some even without hearing a piece of his music. Perhaps they do so for the sake of "Man... every good guitar player has cited Hendrix as an influence, so must I."

Of course that quote is terribly generalised, but I'm sure you get my drift. I must admit, not every Hendrix song is my cup of tea, but its really him who paved the way for many others, many whom I admire.

So for the question of, is Jimi Hendrix one of your greatest influences?

Yes, he sure is, in an indirect manner even though I hardly touch his songs or copy his riffs.

P.S. Is it just me, or is everyone into metal nowadays? (No offence or anything metal fans... I respect music.)
 
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