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What is the main difference between a Pearl MMX (made of Maple) and the NEW Pearl Session (which is also made of Maple)....in the Price?
Yup, there are different grades of maple.
True slow growth old forest maple trees are most prized due to the narrow growth rings and straight grain. The wood resonates extremely well and the finishes are well accepted. Newer and reforested trees do not have as tight a growth ring habit and are not as prized as old growth timber. Solid shelled snare drums made of burled or Birdseye maple are very warm in overall tone but also impart a very bright attack.
As you can see, age makes a difference, temperate and location too. Rarity, in the case of birdseye maple. There's also maple which is seasoned for 2-3 years, that reduces the moisture content in the wood. Different factors involved in harvesting will translate to different costs for different grades of maple.
maybe the Trees in the Philippines are younger and climate too there makes the Mahagony not as good as that of the African ones
But if you're talking about Philippine Mahogany, it's a different story.
It is not a different/lower grade of Mahogany, because it is actually not mahogany at all.
 
Bro Weckl

Thanks for the details..it's sure very beneficial to everyone here. Bird-Eyes Maple are actually Disease-Wood (correct me if I'm wrong)..It's looks nice & unique .... like say a Snake that is White in colour with red eyes (due to a kind of sickness on Pigmentation) ...this snakes are shortlive however...well not for wood for sure.....but does Bird-Eyes Maple sound better than normal Maple...again it's not proven I believed.

Solid Shells drums are very very expensive....most of us do not own a Solid Shell Drum Kits (it will cost a Bomb)...so lets say a Normal 6ply, 8ply, 10 ply or 20 ply kit....Well yes Pearl has a good Technology (if not the best in this area) binding the shells altogether....but Pearl says it's research found

(1) For a Kit to sound best - it's uses different kinds of ply eg Maplle plus Mahagony or Maple plus Birch to do the toms (The Pearl Reference Series)

(2) Pearl also claim Aged Maples are good - It's Master Series

(3) Both these Series are Pearl Highest End Kit - Now which will sound better

(4) Answer - some prefer the Pearl Reference..but MANY still prefer the sound of the Master Series today - - - in a way it's subjective here to individual I would say.

Drums Company do not have a Record (where everyone can see & check) like Guitar company GIBSON for instance on Year of wood used, which country etc...therefore there is no way one can check for sure....and maybe Maple (loudness) Birch (Recording) & Mahagony (very Warm), Oak (Loudness), Bulbinga, Jarreh (VERY Hard Wood)...are common wood used by these companies.....couple with all these....somepeople like Thin-Shell, some like Thick Shells....and the list goes on and on - but all a matter of personal taste...and I get confuse reading so many of these writeouts.

It is partly science I believed of course, but when comes to deciding on the best kit to buy. People really get confuse...so they look at HardWares..solid ones here in buying decision...because no one knows what is the best drums.

PS: But I do really believe, an average kit (even entry level kit) eg Yamaha Stage Custom can sound as good as any High End Drums, if it's Bearing Edge is in Perfect Condition, replace it with good Batters & Resonants, tune it to it's best, Free-floating it if possible (to better resonate the drums) - and it sound like any other high end kit - Mic it up by a good soundman - Wow.wwwww it can be as good as a Pearl Master or a DW or a Tama Star-Classic..why not? I've heard a PDP mic-up (by a good soundman) and it sounded like a DW till I went closer to see the Kit....Ooops a PDP...surprise ! and this is true.

PS:- My MLX an old Pearl Master uses the older toms mounting...if I change the Mounting to Pearl New Opti-Mounts...it will 100% makes a great difference to the MLX (as it resonate much better)....but then I didn't..all because I wanted to keep the Image of the 1982 Master...in that I have to forgo the sound....Hahahaha I think my Yamaha Stage Custom sounded better than my Pearl MLX All Maple Kit....really it's true ..maybe you should try it to believe it yourself.
 
-Bird-Eyes Maple are actually Disease-Wood
Actually research into the cultivation of birdseye maple has so far discounted the theories that it is caused by pecking birds deforming the wood grain or that an infecting fungus makes it twist. It's still an unknown cause... heh.

-but does Bird-Eyes Maple sound better than normal Maple...again it's not proven I believed.
I brought it up in the cost/grade of maple by saying that because it is rarer than other grades, it will naturally cost more to use, doesn't mean it actually sounds better. I don't think it's possible to say wood A sounds better than wood B either. It might be possible to say wood A is more suitable for this type of music because it has a higher fundamental note, and lower mids.. etc etc. But to say better, across the board, scientifically, with no bias, even analysing the sound spectrum won't be able to prove that :D

-It is partly science I believed of course, but when comes to deciding on the best kit to buy....because no one knows what is the best drums.
Yup... If fact, if someone says ____ is the BEST, what he is really saying is that it's the best to him. Maybe to him it sounds best, maybe to him it looks best, maybe if feels best. It's something really subjective and personal. The key is, you've got to sit behind the kit and try it for yourself.

-PS: But I do really believe, an average kit (even entry level kit) eg Yamaha Stage Custom can sound as good as any High End Drums.

I agree with you 100% bro, most entry kits from any of the main manufacturers, tama, pearl, ludwig, peace, pdp, yamaha.. etc, can be tuned to sound good!

Don't get me wrong, I certainly wasn't saying cheaper grades of wood necessarily sounds bad. Just brought up the luan issue because I myself, used to think it was mahogany and don't want anyone else to be misled.

It's like selling a Perodua Kelisa as a Malaysian Mini Cooper, just because it looks similar to one.
 
Philippine Mahogany is not actually Mahagony at all - thks for this value info - I thought it was too. Hmm.mm I think my Stage Custom is also make of this Mahagony ply that is a Non-Mahagony... :lol: Cheers !
 
is the omar hakim made from african mahogany? hah..

pearl claims it is but after reading, i haven't saw a grade for african mahogany..

why pearl sells the hakim a relatively cheaper price??
 
is the omar hakim made from african mahogany? hah..
pearl claims it is but after reading, i haven't saw a grade for african mahogany..
why pearl sells the hakim a relatively cheaper price??

Yup, it should be, they can't lie about that lah.. Sure kenna from drummers all over the world. The other drum companies wouldn't keep quiet about it either.

Cheaper as compared to what? The MHX Masters snare?
If you compare the prices from www.drumcentral.com/snaredrums3.htm, it's only $98 difference. That difference is for the die-cast hoops and the added maple reinforcement rings, maybe even an added premium for the Masters name, ha, who knows?

From what I've read, people agree the shell is similar to the Masters version, only difference is in number of plys and the maple re-rings.

(#OH1350) Pearl Omar Hakim 5x13 6 ply African mahogany snare drum with Superhoop II rims, SR-015 strainer. $324.35

(#MHX1455S) Pearl MHX Masters Mahogany 5.5x14 African Mahogany snare drum features 4 ply 5mm 100% African Mahogany shells with 4 ply 5mm maple glue rings. MasterCast die cast hoops, bridge lugs, and SR-017 vertical-pull strainer. $422.50
 
I know why...I know why ...because Omar Hakim plays Electronic Drums better than Acoustic Drums...that's why :smt040 :smt040 :smt040 - Wah I bery cleber ! :lol:
 
my humble bumble kit :oops:

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specs:10''ayotte
12'',13'',carlos(old model)
14''(carlos snare)
16''carlos floor tom
22''ayotte bass drum(left)
22''carlos bass drum(right)

hardware:gibraltar rack
2 tama boomstands
3 carlos stand
pearl snare stand
pearl hh stand
2 carlos single pedal
1 kitchen stool throne
lazer snare muffler

cymbals:8'' lazer splash
11'' splash(frm carlos top hh)
14'' zildjian new beat hh
17'' sabian hhxtreme crash
18'' sabian hhx studio crash
18'' carlos ride



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ayotte's kick ass huh. i got a set myself off ebay. but its not the custom series like urs its the cheaper drumsmith line. it's a gd 10yrs old i reckon and its steel hooped. the 10 tom is the freaking best sounding tom i have ever had. i noticed u got ur front skinned removed from ur bass drum. why did u do tht?
 
man i wished i have the front skin....but i don...only the hoops....
so...to make it even....i took out all the skins(both bass drums)i'll try and buy a pair of front heads asap and put them.... :D
 
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