O Levels Students 2009!!

Holispirit said:
Learning from your usual mistakes in comprehension isn't considered studying?
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That's not the way... Comprehension questions ultimately question your ability to think and answer, not your ability to write in a language[c'mon, comprehension answers do not take your grammar into account].

And the questions comprehension examinations can come up with are endless. I don't see a point doing comprehension questions to improve your English or Chinese.

Learning Chinese phrases aren't the way too.

To improve your languages, it's best to read wide and speak properly.

To be able to think critically and respond to questions, I can't help you in it. I feel that this is affected by one's innate capability. If you are those who can't think well, it'll be a hinder. If you are, then, well, good for you. There's a reason why not everyone can be a philosopher.

You can't study for your languages. It's not physics where it's formulated e=mc2.
 
i think when studying for languages, it's important to apply to context of the question

like say 2 words that has similar meaning, naked and nude.
when applied to different context, it invoke different reactions,
e.g " the models are cat-walking naked on stage" vs " the models are cat-walking nude on stage" would have different connotation etc.

so it's important to know how u're applying it.
this applies to chinse compre also lah( but i haven touch chinese in like 1 year so i can't really think of a good e.g)
 
okaye ive to disagree somewhat.

Very rarely are ppl able to speak WELL in BOTH english and chinese.
My english is much better than my chinese.
Yes speaking and reading is important.
But for like chinese, when u do the bao zhang bao dao. u need to rmb a few phrases and the right format. Phrases do set u apart from those who dont use them. And thats when language comes in. Hence i memorise phrases.

However, for english comprehension they do minus marks for grammar/seplling. what i heard is that u dont even need to start ur sentence proper. can jsut go straight to the answer. Like instead of The word is"____" you just go "____". because compre is to test ur understanding. but do make sure the grammar and spelling are right.

No formula for studying for languages.(well to a certain extent)
But if u study phrases and practice what u go wrong like ur tenses. It does help to a certain extent. For eng and chinese the way ur construct your sentences and the vocab you use, def sets u apart. Thats why ppl study phrases, to make up for their loss in the capability in speaking that particular language well.

Like my dad, spoken english no very good. When he writes, whole new story.
 
Haha. If everyone is gonna memorise the phrases for bao zhang bao dao, then it will be very boring right? like all the 無風不起浪，事出必有因 etc Haha. You need to have very unique guan dian... and the ability to explain..
 
retardedrummer said:
Yes speaking and reading is important.
But for like chinese, when u do the bao zhang bao dao. u need to rmb a few phrases and the right format. Phrases do set u apart from those who dont use them. And thats when language comes in. Hence i memorise phrases.
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Do you take higher Chinese or normal Chinese? In my opinion, what matters most in language is the ability to bring out your message in a clear and coherent manner. Using certain phrases or the "right"/correct way to do so... Clearly stifles creativity and it is not a good judgement of your linguistic ability.

retardedrummer said:
However, for english comprehension they do minus marks for grammar/seplling. what i heard is that u dont even need to start ur sentence proper. can jsut go straight to the answer. Like instead of The word is"____" you just go "____". because compre is to test ur understanding. but do make sure the grammar and spelling are right.
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Yes, they do but it doesn't take up a lot of your marks. At the A Levels, your language marks are reflective of your content marks. It means that even if your grammar and choice of words are inch-perfect, as long as your content marks are bad, your language marks won't be as awesome either. Grammar, anyone?

retardedrummer said:
No formula for studying for languages.(well to a certain extent)
But if u study phrases and practice what u go wrong like ur tenses. It does help to a certain extent. For eng and chinese the way ur construct your sentences and the vocab you use, def sets u apart. Thats why ppl study phrases, to make up for their loss in the capability in speaking that particular language well.
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Well, tenses, vocabulary, whatnot-they build up your foundation. There's a reason why English in O Levels do not test you grammar. I've always believed that even someone uses fanciful words or certain phrases in an essay, it will never be able to beat a simple essay that successfully drives the message across. In an essay, what matters most is the content, the message, the story, the suspense, etc. It's rarely the language. Narrative, expository, argumentative, anything. Ever heard the Chinese idiom "Hua She Tian Zhu"?

Lastly, not everyone can be good in their languages as not everyone has good linguistic abilities. The O Levels is merely used as an indicator to reflect your capabilities and also as a filter to differentiate the good from the bad. Nonetheless, good luck for your language papers. They can be tough... They can be easy... Your abilities, your foundation and to a certain extent, hard work will determine your grades.
 
empihsrow said:
Do you take higher Chinese or normal Chinese? In my opinion, what matters most in language is the ability to bring out your message in a clear and coherent manner. Using certain phrases or the "right"/correct way to do so... Clearly stifles creativity and it is not a good judgement of your linguistic ability.



Yes, they do but it doesn't take up a lot of your marks. At the A Levels, your language marks are reflective of your content marks. It means that even if your grammar and choice of words are inch-perfect, as long as your content marks are bad, your language marks won't be as awesome either. Grammar, anyone?



Well, tenses, vocabulary, whatnot-they build up your foundation. There's a reason why English in O Levels do not test you grammar. I've always believed that even someone uses fanciful words or certain phrases in an essay, it will never be able to beat a simple essay that successfully drives the message across. In an essay, what matters most is the content, the message, the story, the suspense, etc. It's rarely the language. Narrative, expository, argumentative, anything. Ever heard the Chinese idiom "Hua She Tian Zhu"?

Lastly, not everyone can be good in their languages as not everyone has good linguistic abilities. The O Levels is merely used as an indicator to reflect your capabilities and also as a filter to differentiate the good from the bad. Nonetheless, good luck for your language papers. They can be tough... They can be easy... Your abilities, your foundation and to a certain extent, hard work will determine your grades.
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Thanks for the luck! Agree with your last sentence totally.
All ive been told in my school is that
1)Good Vocab+language+to the point
2)Simple passage+to the point

Number one wins. yeap.
 
the worst scenario is that u knw the ans to tat particular qn bt u cnt put it across in words...occasionally happens to me in both languages...really frustrating
 
empihsrow said:
That's not the way... Comprehension questions ultimately question your ability to think and answer, not your ability to write in a language[c'mon, comprehension answers do not take your grammar into account].

And the questions comprehension examinations can come up with are endless. I don't see a point doing comprehension questions to improve your English or Chinese.

Learning Chinese phrases aren't the way too.

To improve your languages, it's best to read wide and speak properly.

To be able to think critically and respond to questions, I can't help you in it. I feel that this is affected by one's innate capability. If you are those who can't think well, it'll be a hinder. If you are, then, well, good for you. There's a reason why not everyone can be a philosopher.

You can't study for your languages. It's not physics where it's formulated e=mc2.
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Dude, like i said, LEARNING from you mistakes made previously, not doing more questions. You said reading and speaking properly improves our languages, yes that is true to a large extend, but looking at the time constraints now, i don't think your "reading and speaking well" can help a lot. On the other hand, looking at one's past mistakes and avoiding them in the O levels can be helpful and can even help one to salvage that few marks which will differentiate you from an A from a B.
 
ThePreamble said:
Wow, looking at the replies here, I'm dead as lovelovelovelove lol. I like failed everything except my emaths for prelims ( altho i didn't do most papers). Damn lazy to study, totally not motivated. :/ Got 4 points for my N's last year.

Stephen,
The Preamble
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guess im not the only one haha. sian i wanna go tp too..
 
OMG!. "post above me" TRUE!! so true!!!! If I get around 10-17 points, I'm gonna get either a new guitar/drum kit or a vacation to europe :DD
OMIGOSH I CANT WAIT!!!
After O levels, already planned to balik kampung in the mountains in puncak,bandung, indonesia.
&& one last thing. How do I remember the formula's in physics & what's up with the mole's concept?? I don't understand it.
 
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