My very unpleasant deal with a buyer

I've learned from experiences the hard way that being nice to people who aren't nice to you ALWAYS backfires.

Imo as the seller you have every right to do whatever you want, in terms of pricing, dealing, or whatever conditions you want to set. Still remember the retarded stuff like trading guitar for potato chips. You can sell a spoilt DS-1 for 1 million dollars for all you care and no one can stop you. Bottom line is its your call to do anything you want. I'm sorry if you're in a situation where you're desperate to sell an item and that's when the buyer has got you by the throat and you're willing to lose some dignity just to get rid of your item. If you're confident of selling to someone else, simply say nicely, I'm sorry sir, I'm not comfortable dealing with you and I've decided not to sell it to you.

Not many people get this because they've the mentality the customer is always right and all that bullshit. So these kind of people are part and parcel of dealing 2nd hand. Sometimes I can tell someone is like that just by the way they are smsing me while trying to deal. If I have high interest in the item I will tell the guy nicely sorry I'm just not so keen on selling to you anymore full stop, even if he was first in line.

You may have a rule that the first person gets the item. Try not to keep that rule black and white and allow yourself space for some flexibility. Since you said you had other interested parties you really should have saved yourself some anxiety by turning that fellow down. Like someone else said. Everyone gains.. You don't have to deal with an asshole, and that kid gets a brand new guitar rather than 2nd hand.
 
There's a reason why most men are Papa Wolf. I can understand where the dad is coming from. If I were to buy a gift for my son, I would want to ensure that the product itself is genuine and legal. I do agree that the dad is being a bit too...arrogant and idiotic (sorry to all pops out there, yo). One of my friend bought a Fender Bass from Cash Converter. They tracked the seller and the seller said that he 'found' the Fender Bass and sold it off because he needed money. Turned out the seller actually stole the bass and sold it to Cash Converter. My friend dunno to be guilty or happy because he bought the bass at a real cheap price from CC but it guilts him to know about the bass' origin.

I can understand that as a customer and consumer, it is perfectly fine to defend yourself and protect yourself. When in Davis, they wanted to sell me a pedal they have on display, I insisted that I wanted a brand new one. I had a bad experience buying something on display at Davis so I insisted they give me a brand new one when I buy stuff from them. It's really fine and okay to protect yourself as a consumer as long as you aren't behaving like an ass to the sales representative. I didn't say like "If you don't gimme, I won't buy it", I went more of a "I'd really like a brand new one because I got some...errr...phobia thingy buying stuff that's already on display", he wasn't an ass and got me a brand new one so I was okay with it. But he did keep insisting I take the one on display, but I was more persistent.

As a seller, it's perfectly fine to be nice, but if the deal is ugly, then it's pointless to continue. You'll only upset yourself as a seller and the money you get from the sale won't be "happy money" but rather "have to argue and crap like hell to make some cash out of this". Don't worry, I got bad deals before as seller and as buyer. It's fine. Just keeps you more cautious and experience. Think of it as leveling up.
 
bro imo its right for the old man to see ur id and better still both have signed copies of the sale statement to avoid future disputes for you and safeguard for him. in ur situation the old man could have been more tactful and courteous on his part. but in any transaction its always good to have a piece of black n white which many of us dont practice myself included. its just a safeguard. you dont really know where the seller got his goods from.....and the buyer may come back with a clone and say its yours....agree?
 
yeah when i was buying a guitar from a soft member i was kinda skeptical on the low price.

checking the ID gives assurance that you can contact the seller or at least have his name in the case that your guitar is faulty
 
As a seller, I ensure I provide whatever product information I can provide to the buyer before the deal, pictures, condition, age, etc.
Be honest, you don't want him to find out you're trying to test water on him (eg dont state cymbal is crack cuz crack small, not obvious) and ended up things get ugly.

Just imagine if you're the one buying the product you're selling, you'll get what I mean. Is the price worth not getting it from retail shops? Is the condition worth the price? Imagine a 5 year old super rusty, poor condition Carlos entry kit retailing $500 at date of purchase, seller sell it 2nd hand for $450. Will you want such a set?

Make an effort to not waste each others' time. If you're expecting to be late (traffic jams, etc.) TELL THE BUYER EARLY. Don't wait 'til its time for the meeting you tell him. Even if you think you MIGHT be late, at least assure the buyer! Will you feel comfortable waiting for a seller who doesn't show up during the intended meeting time and doesn't reply to your sms/call?

During the trade, show the buyer the item as thorough as possible, eg: rusty parts and stuff. And demonstrate how to use unless he says he knows how to, which later will be HIS problem if he doesn't know how to. Once this is done, money from buyer and off you go. After going off, sms the buyer again to thank him and let him know if there's any problem do let me know. Kinda after-sales service thing.

Should a problem like yours arise, even after showing the equipment and demostration, I will just shrug it off and say "uncle, I show you everything liao. You dowan then dun waste each others' time."
 
This is why when i'm buying something from someone on soft, i will meet the guy alone or with my friends. Don't dare to bring along my dad. afraid that he will react like the man you met. Teenager here btw. :)
 
Moral of the story: have a dignity of a true rocker: $ can't buy your pride. Never deal with kids and count on other softies. For a Gibson sg even if u put it $1000, there'll still be happy softies buyers.
 
Moral of the story: have a dignity of a true rocker: $ can't buy your pride. Never deal with kids and count on other softies. For a Gibson sg even if u put it $1000, there'll still be happy softies buyers.
Agree with the spirit of your post but I have to say I've done a few deals with "kids" who behaved and carried themselves as admirably as full frown adults. And then again there are also people you deal with that make you wonder whether they stopped maturing at 12. (nothing against 12 year olds).

If there's a parent involved, yea better be a bit more wary than usual. But I wouldn't write someone off just because they're a "kid".
 
I've just encountered a similar incident with the Sheraton II that i'm selling. All communications were via SMS between me and the buyer. I could've guessed that he's pretty young as he said he can only meet me after school.

So I asked him to come down to my place at Pasir Ris, which he agreed and told me that his dad would drive him down. Meet up was supposed to take place last Sunday but suddenly the buyer sent a text message asking me to go down to his place at CCK instead. I disagreed and insisted him to come down to Pasir Ris instead. Then he called me up, passed the phone to his dad. This was what the dad said:-

"Young boy, I dont want my son to waste our time going over to your place just to take a look at your guitar. If you really want to sell, you should come to our place instead."

I insisted they come down as agreed by the son in the first place. But the dad added: "Ok, we come down but you must pay us transport money $50, even if my son decided not to buy."

I was like, wtf??? Immediately I told the dad that I changed my mind and not going to sell to his son. And before I hang up, I told him.. "Just for your info, Im not a young boy and I already have 2 school going kids."

Later, the buyer SMS me ask me to reconsider the deal and that his Dad didnt know that I am actually an adult. Wtf?.. I ignored the SMS.

You know who u r..
 
=gothviruz

Could they be the same people mentioned by sunrisenblues? :evil::twisted:
 
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I was like, wtf??? Immediately I told the dad that I changed my mind and not going to sell to his son. And before I hang up, I told him.. "Just for your info, Im not a young boy and I already have 2 school going kids."

Later, the buyer SMS me ask me to reconsider the deal and that his Dad didnt know that I am actually an adult. Wtf?.. I ignored the SMS.

Nice one there.. Hope you get a good sincere buyer soon.
 
Could they be the same people mentioned by sunrisenblues? :evil::twisted:

I cant confirm that. The boy is 15 yrs old, as he had mentioned to me after I called off the deal. But seriously, if i'm a 'young boy' like what they thought I was, would the dad go all out to manupilate me?
 
LOLz. :D thats telling it like it is.

Look, if buying pizza, go to pizza hut etc lah.You dont expect the restaurant to come to you with the pizza unless YOU pay for the delivery. Right?
So if they want you to come over, they should be the ones paying for your transport costs regardless if they buy the gtr or not.
shessh.

also, I've not heard of a door-to-door gtr salesperson. Have you?
hope you get a sincere buyer as well
 
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Man, I had this nice person who sms-ed me an hour ago regarding my HT-5s and fast forward 30 minutes, he turned up, paid cash and left! Totally sincere about buying, knew what the item was about and was totally nice about it.

His name is Eric and all he did was ask what price I could lower to. I offered a price and he accepted immediately, saying he didn't want to push too low.

So, there's now a void where the HT-5s used to be, but the faith in good deals and good people in SOFT is restored.

Good luck for everyone's deals!
 
Sorry to hear about the awful deals some you guys have had to deal with. Personally all of my deals have gone smoothly with very pleasant sellers.
 
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