Music theory

Count me in! I've little (close to none) background on theory. Such e-learning section will definitely be of help. I think the key thing is for the lessons to be easy to follow for those with little background, at least for the more fundamental portions. Best if there are examples for illustration. Doesn't have to be interactive (it's a lot of work).

Thanks! =)
 
If got online theory lessons here, I'll take em :P

The only scores I ever read are drum ones, so they differ abit from the normal instruments. Like how to count E in terms of taogay? I don't even know where to start. lol
 
Dhalif, the entire purpose of coming up with "Practical Theory 101" is to break down the stereotype idea of what theory is all about - which is exactly what you just said.

We don't want to replicate theory as how it is traditionally taught. I hope we can come up with theory that is practical instead of theoretical. I've taught theory before - trust me, it can be done.

That's why I think "Practical Theory" sounds like a good name - because theory can be practical!

It seems that there may be quite a level of interest. Give me a while - it's better we start a new thread on this so contributors can help out. Or do you think if contributors have a separate private section (if James allow) to collaborate?
 
Yeah Cheez, it is a typical un-informed stereotype that "know theory = cannot play properly". Sheesh. Perhaps thats why the music always sounds the same. :roll:

Cheez, James already has a section of SOFT for teaching of such things. I think you should contact him.

Theory was never designed to be seperate from the practical aspects of music. They both go hand in hand. Its just how the person manipulates theory, or just leaves it as head knowledge.
 
Shredcow, I know SOFT has a e-learning section and if we do go ahead, I intend to use it.

What I meant is how the contributors can efficiently collaborate to get it out. I guess we can still use the forum section to do that. But we don't want to broadcast the details of the nitty-gritties.

As for the content, I'm thining of moving entirely away from the standard ABRSM teaching. That also means that people who logs on will not learn theory to pass any exams - in fact, they will not be able to. We may deliberately leave out certain parts and emphasize other aspects - the goal is to help musicians use it for practical purposes. Leaving out parts of theory can be dangerous - we need to choose carefully. But if we omit some less "practical" aspects, we can come up with a short course rather than a boring long course.

So we really need good contributors/teachers to chip in.
 
Another thing - to make it more interactive, we need people who can do some programming - maybe in java or something.
 
im not against it entirely cheez.. im just saying if you dwell on it too much until it becomes everything to you when you start playing that instrument.. then it will go really really bad.
 
Dhalif, the reverse seems to be more prevelant. I've never met a single person who "dwells too much on it". Instead, most people don't even care about it.

I only hope to bring about some balance...
 
Agreed. Most of the time its a matter of whether you want to do it. I don't know why there was a dispute over whether theory is redundant. I find it quite ridiculous la, you can't say something fundamental and essential to playing music as useless. Most of the outstanding players, whether they start technically or with no knowledge at all, all somehow ending up needing to know some theory. Its like if the band says something simple like "we'll play in D", then what do you do?

Hmm, maybe don't need interactive la(while it would definitely more pro and stylo), a sticky on like the essential theory for beginners would be a gd start? Maybe there is already... ya then you can make an advanced one as time goes on and maybe specific topics for genres like metal players might want to improve on picking speed and licks etc. Maybe dont need to put forum but put as one of the links as SOFT. Probably if its mostly text, shouldn't take up too much bandwidth for Mr SOFT? :D ya maybe some mp3 samples too.

Haha that's what I think la. Hope it helps.
 
haha no la, not say clash or what la. Its like saying maths or english not important la, where got logic? :D

No maths cannot count money, no english cannot write in forum. You tell me leh? :lol:
 
i just met far too many theory musicians who talks alot of stuff that some i dont event understand(lol) but when it comes to getting down and playing it.. he have difficulties. like we're playing some minor progression and he goes like ok i can use aeolian and yadda yadda and end up using everything in 8 bars and made it sound like 45 genres put together in 1 minute going whichever directions.. u know what i mean..
 
Yeah I know what you mean la. My friend was jamming with this guy, highly qualified dude, and felt theoretically a particular lick wouldn't fit in the song. But when my friend tried it, it sounded great. I guess sometimes theory shouldn't stop you from experimenting.

I'm not sure about all the theory guys u've met la, maybe really they are like that, but knowing what notes you can fit in a key is an asset itself and is most of the time helpful, among other things. I guess the guy you mentioned sounds like he really has no idea about phrasing and comping, otherwise he wouldn't mix different scales/modes for the sake of playing them. Like I always say: he win la. 8)
 
Cheez said:
Dhalif, the reverse seems to be more prevelant. I've never met a single person who "dwells too much on it". Instead, most people don't even care about it.

I only hope to bring about some balance...
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Never met someone who was too into theory.

And Dahlif, that guy who "made it sound like 45 genres put together in 1 minute going whichever directions" probably makes stuff sound more different than you, playing the same style over and over again. :wink:

Theory should make one want to reach out of the box and try different stuff. Thats why its "theory". To the noob, thats the way to "speculate" a solo or composition, and that is 1 way out of the box of familiarity. As you get better, and more experiences, then it must fall into a balance.
 
Everyone will want to know how to improvise. Haha. Hot topic that will be.

Basics of rhythm will be rocking. Esp for those trying to get into proggressive music, instead of just playing by ears and reading tab.

Ah... speaking of reading tab, how about introduction to Score? Tab is never sufficient alone, but score with tab, you don't even need to listen to the music to play it out correctly.
 
True - some has head knowledge but when it comes to actual doing it, he falls apart. But then if you take that "head knowledge" away from that guy, he probably has nothing at all! So in a way, that "head knowledge" helped him a little!

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that theory is everything. Obviously it isn't. But as I said before, the balance is usually tipped the way away. There's no harm going into theory if one has no background in it - what can you lose? You only stand to gain!

And Doubleblade, harmony and arrangement will not be in 101. That's probably way down the track...

OK, enough talk. Time to get it down.
 
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