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DarknessIsComfort
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hopefully united plays the same way this coming wednesday.
rollsroyce90
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hai those arsenal fans self deceiving.. Indeed arsenal did not play their best 11, but so did manu. So theres no excuse why arsenal lost to manu. Bottomline of the game is Manu played better then arsenal. And don't be nonsensical say ref was biase la.. Gallas kick nani and theres no card for it. And adebayor blantantly dive in front of the referee, so that is a deserved yellow card. Rooney didn't kick the ball away he just dribbled the ball away from a freekick and he got a yellow card.Why cant arsenal fans be gracious and admit defeat. When manu lost to man city last week i was disappointed but i accepted the defeat because Man city played better.
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i didn't watch this show down, after the Pool defeat, i was just too sleepy... i stayed awake for the wrong match, really... just caught the highlights.
anyway, Nani was outstanding to say the least. he should play like that all the time. as it is, i don't support any EPL teams but this is why i bother to pay attention when Man Utd play (i watch Pool play as well but right now, they aren't happening).
anyway, Nani was outstanding to say the least. he should play like that all the time. as it is, i don't support any EPL teams but this is why i bother to pay attention when Man Utd play (i watch Pool play as well but right now, they aren't happening).
fgl
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Match Report
FA Cup Round 5
Old Trafford
Saturday, February 16, 2008, 5.15pm
Manchester United
4
Rooney 16, Fletcher 20, 74, Nani 38
Arsenal
0
By Richard Clarke
The success of Arsenal's season will now depend on their Premier League and Champions League progress after they were unceremoniously knocked out of the FA Cup by Manchester United at Old Trafford on Saturday.
Before this Fifth Round tie, Arsène Wenger had suggested his side were "down to the bare bones". And they were certainly dead and buried within 20 minutes this afternoon after Wayne Rooney and Darren Fletcher scored with headers.
Nani added another seven minutes before the break and, after Emmanuel Eboue had been dismissed, Fletcher netted once more 16 minutes from time.
It was an abject performance from Arsenal, who were caught by Manchester United's early onslaught and never really escaped.
But, like their 5-1 Carling Cup exit at the hands of Tottenham, the travelling supporters can take comfort in the fact that their side's priorities lie elsewhere.
Towards the end of the game, those fans, who were perhaps Arsenal's best performer on the day, sang "we'll be back to win the League".
Time will tell about that.
Before then, on Wednesday, Arsenal entertain Milan in the Champions League Knockout Round first leg.
Despite all their injuries, Wenger would surely welcome a little bout of amnesia before then.
Because this game is best forgotten.
Arsenal had travelled to Manchester on Friday without nine players but, more tellingly, with a further three carrying injuries.
In the end the entire trio - Philippe Senderos (knee), Gael Clichy (hamstring) and Emmanuel Adebayor (hamstring) - started on the bench.
The full injured list was as follows as: Johan Djourou (groin), Robin van Persie (thigh), Abou Diaby (calf), Manuel Almunia (sick), Denilson (hamstring), Tomas Rosicky (hamstring), Theo Walcott (thigh), Alex Song (muscular) and Bacary Sagna (personal reasons).
It meant the side that Wenger named was pretty much his full compliment of fit players.
Justin Hoyte and Armand Traore were the full backs while Kolo Toure and Eboue were playing their first games for Arsenal since the 2-0 win at Burnley in the Third Round.
William Gallas and Cesc Fabregas started despite suggestions they may be rested ahead of the Milan game. Manchester United's only concession to their tie at Lyon was the omission of Cristiano Ronaldo. However Rooney was back after missing the defeat to Manchester City through suspension.
It had been a clear bright day in Manchester. But by 5.15pm, it had gotten cold. However the bristling atmosphere was something to behold.
This was not only Arsenal v Manchester United but it was far and away the tie of the Fifth Round. Not even Liverpool's surprise exit to Barnsley could detract from that.
However Manchester United began the afternoon like they were in the mood to make some headlines - and they barely relented all game.
As early as the eighth minute, Anderson saw a left-footed drive saved at the near post by Jens Lehmann.
Soon after, Nani swung over a corner to the edge of the six-yard box and Gallas sliced the ball behind. The Frenchman erred again a couple of minutes later and Lehmann raced to the edge of his area to boot the ball clear as Rooney raced through.
At this stage it was all Manchester United so it was no surprise to see them take the lead on the quarter-hour. Bendtner half-cleared Nani's corner and Anderson nodded it back goalwards for Rooney to divert a header past Lehmann from close range.
Almost immediately it was 2-0. Nani twisted and turned past Hoyte on the byline and clipped a ball to the near post for Darren Fletcher to power home a header from point-blank range. Though Gallas may have got the final touch.
Only 20 minutes had gone and the visitors had barely settled. And they were now facing perhaps the most difficult task in British football over the last 15 years - clawing back a sizeable lead at Old Trafford.
Arsenal responded in some way when Bendtner touched the ball to Gallas on the left and his cross picked out Hleb on the edge of the area. The Belarus midfielder hit it first time but Patrice Evra blocked.
The ball flew up the other end and, once again, Lehmann had to race out to boot away the danger as Rooney went clear.
The England striker was having a superb game. However just past the half-hour he might have done better when, with only Gallas to beat, he trickled a shot well wide.
A couple of minutes later Rooney expertly chested down Fletcher's cross but his drive was disappointing. Still, the former Everton striker was causing untold trouble in the Arsenal backline.
However the third goal had nothing to Rooney. In the 38th minute Michael Carrick clipped a simple ball forward over Gallas' head and Nani steered in a left-foot shot.
Again it had been a straightforward move. Arsenal just had not defended it well enough.
At the break, the chat amongst the creditable number of travelling fans must have been dominated by thoughts of damage limitation rather than a Sixth Round tie in a couple of weeks time.
Just to hammer home the point, within two minutes of the restart, Lehmann had saved twice from Rooney - once from a snap-shot and once from a free-kick.
However almost immediately a sizeable problem became a mountain when Eboue received a straight red card for a high tackle on Nani.
The decision ended any hope of an Arsenal comeback. The contest was over.
Just past the hour, Rooney steered a shot wide and drew a fine save from Lehmann. Despite his excellent game, the Manchester United man should have converted more of the glorious positions he had got himself into.
In the 63rd minute Arsenal created perhaps only their second legitimate chance of the game when Eduardo guided a header over the bar from a floated ball into the area by Fabregas.
Anderson, another eye-catching performance this afternoon, had another couple of chances to extend Manchester United's lead. Then Nani curled an effort wide.
Just after that Wenger made a triple substitution - Senderos, Adebayor and Mathieu Flamini for Eduardo, Hleb and Fabregas. It seemed to be a move made with Milan in mind.
Quite ironically, just as Arsenal had strengthened, Manchester United got their fourth when Nani crossed and Fletcher rose highest at the far post to head home.
There were only two real chances for a fifth. Both fell to substitute Louis Saha, prodded meekly at the legs of Lehmann and then blazed wide.
Thankfully the whistle blew a couple of minutes later.
FA Cup Round 5
Old Trafford
Saturday, February 16, 2008, 5.15pm
Manchester United
4
Rooney 16, Fletcher 20, 74, Nani 38
Arsenal
0
By Richard Clarke
The success of Arsenal's season will now depend on their Premier League and Champions League progress after they were unceremoniously knocked out of the FA Cup by Manchester United at Old Trafford on Saturday.
Before this Fifth Round tie, Arsène Wenger had suggested his side were "down to the bare bones". And they were certainly dead and buried within 20 minutes this afternoon after Wayne Rooney and Darren Fletcher scored with headers.
Nani added another seven minutes before the break and, after Emmanuel Eboue had been dismissed, Fletcher netted once more 16 minutes from time.
It was an abject performance from Arsenal, who were caught by Manchester United's early onslaught and never really escaped.
But, like their 5-1 Carling Cup exit at the hands of Tottenham, the travelling supporters can take comfort in the fact that their side's priorities lie elsewhere.
Towards the end of the game, those fans, who were perhaps Arsenal's best performer on the day, sang "we'll be back to win the League".
Time will tell about that.
Before then, on Wednesday, Arsenal entertain Milan in the Champions League Knockout Round first leg.
Despite all their injuries, Wenger would surely welcome a little bout of amnesia before then.
Because this game is best forgotten.
Arsenal had travelled to Manchester on Friday without nine players but, more tellingly, with a further three carrying injuries.
In the end the entire trio - Philippe Senderos (knee), Gael Clichy (hamstring) and Emmanuel Adebayor (hamstring) - started on the bench.
The full injured list was as follows as: Johan Djourou (groin), Robin van Persie (thigh), Abou Diaby (calf), Manuel Almunia (sick), Denilson (hamstring), Tomas Rosicky (hamstring), Theo Walcott (thigh), Alex Song (muscular) and Bacary Sagna (personal reasons).
It meant the side that Wenger named was pretty much his full compliment of fit players.
Justin Hoyte and Armand Traore were the full backs while Kolo Toure and Eboue were playing their first games for Arsenal since the 2-0 win at Burnley in the Third Round.
William Gallas and Cesc Fabregas started despite suggestions they may be rested ahead of the Milan game. Manchester United's only concession to their tie at Lyon was the omission of Cristiano Ronaldo. However Rooney was back after missing the defeat to Manchester City through suspension.
It had been a clear bright day in Manchester. But by 5.15pm, it had gotten cold. However the bristling atmosphere was something to behold.
This was not only Arsenal v Manchester United but it was far and away the tie of the Fifth Round. Not even Liverpool's surprise exit to Barnsley could detract from that.
However Manchester United began the afternoon like they were in the mood to make some headlines - and they barely relented all game.
As early as the eighth minute, Anderson saw a left-footed drive saved at the near post by Jens Lehmann.
Soon after, Nani swung over a corner to the edge of the six-yard box and Gallas sliced the ball behind. The Frenchman erred again a couple of minutes later and Lehmann raced to the edge of his area to boot the ball clear as Rooney raced through.
At this stage it was all Manchester United so it was no surprise to see them take the lead on the quarter-hour. Bendtner half-cleared Nani's corner and Anderson nodded it back goalwards for Rooney to divert a header past Lehmann from close range.
Almost immediately it was 2-0. Nani twisted and turned past Hoyte on the byline and clipped a ball to the near post for Darren Fletcher to power home a header from point-blank range. Though Gallas may have got the final touch.
Only 20 minutes had gone and the visitors had barely settled. And they were now facing perhaps the most difficult task in British football over the last 15 years - clawing back a sizeable lead at Old Trafford.
Arsenal responded in some way when Bendtner touched the ball to Gallas on the left and his cross picked out Hleb on the edge of the area. The Belarus midfielder hit it first time but Patrice Evra blocked.
The ball flew up the other end and, once again, Lehmann had to race out to boot away the danger as Rooney went clear.
The England striker was having a superb game. However just past the half-hour he might have done better when, with only Gallas to beat, he trickled a shot well wide.
A couple of minutes later Rooney expertly chested down Fletcher's cross but his drive was disappointing. Still, the former Everton striker was causing untold trouble in the Arsenal backline.
However the third goal had nothing to Rooney. In the 38th minute Michael Carrick clipped a simple ball forward over Gallas' head and Nani steered in a left-foot shot.
Again it had been a straightforward move. Arsenal just had not defended it well enough.
At the break, the chat amongst the creditable number of travelling fans must have been dominated by thoughts of damage limitation rather than a Sixth Round tie in a couple of weeks time.
Just to hammer home the point, within two minutes of the restart, Lehmann had saved twice from Rooney - once from a snap-shot and once from a free-kick.
However almost immediately a sizeable problem became a mountain when Eboue received a straight red card for a high tackle on Nani.
The decision ended any hope of an Arsenal comeback. The contest was over.
Just past the hour, Rooney steered a shot wide and drew a fine save from Lehmann. Despite his excellent game, the Manchester United man should have converted more of the glorious positions he had got himself into.
In the 63rd minute Arsenal created perhaps only their second legitimate chance of the game when Eduardo guided a header over the bar from a floated ball into the area by Fabregas.
Anderson, another eye-catching performance this afternoon, had another couple of chances to extend Manchester United's lead. Then Nani curled an effort wide.
Just after that Wenger made a triple substitution - Senderos, Adebayor and Mathieu Flamini for Eduardo, Hleb and Fabregas. It seemed to be a move made with Milan in mind.
Quite ironically, just as Arsenal had strengthened, Manchester United got their fourth when Nani crossed and Fletcher rose highest at the far post to head home.
There were only two real chances for a fifth. Both fell to substitute Louis Saha, prodded meekly at the legs of Lehmann and then blazed wide.
Thankfully the whistle blew a couple of minutes later.
fuzztremecho
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hahahaha
i noticed it long ago but i dunno the name of this alfred e newman..just know him as the mad magazine game dude
anyway bro fgl, arsenal did not lost because man utd played better..well, we did lah but
the starting line-up already showed where mr wenger is plotting his next move
its like a chess game,meticulous strategic planning involved...well i always love a good chest game..especially those involving grandmasters Jenna J and Tara P. hehehehe
i noticed it long ago but i dunno the name of this alfred e newman..just know him as the mad magazine game dude
anyway bro fgl, arsenal did not lost because man utd played better..well, we did lah but
the starting line-up already showed where mr wenger is plotting his next move
its like a chess game,meticulous strategic planning involved...well i always love a good chest game..especially those involving grandmasters Jenna J and Tara P. hehehehe
superflydom
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Could some one please repeat the score of last nights man utd vs ars game for me please 
big and bold okay! but ars is one hell of a good team i gotta admit la . they weren't their usual self yesterday. not like head butting each other is part of their everyday game. but yeah ahahha! they're fast and good. remember when they played man utd late last year. omg my balls nearly dropped okay when william gallas scored that last min goal . omg. imagine how much ka chings was lost in that last 10 seconds of the game man. can die. but i'm looking forward to watch Ars when they come to visit the theater of dreams once again. and you can see ryan giggs running down the wing. crosses! and WHACK! Rio gives one hell of a volley but almunia saves it and BAM! Namanja uses his steel head and heads it past a helpless william gallas who's standing at the far post.
big and bold okay! but ars is one hell of a good team i gotta admit la . they weren't their usual self yesterday. not like head butting each other is part of their everyday game. but yeah ahahha! they're fast and good. remember when they played man utd late last year. omg my balls nearly dropped okay when william gallas scored that last min goal . omg. imagine how much ka chings was lost in that last 10 seconds of the game man. can die. but i'm looking forward to watch Ars when they come to visit the theater of dreams once again. and you can see ryan giggs running down the wing. crosses! and WHACK! Rio gives one hell of a volley but almunia saves it and BAM! Namanja uses his steel head and heads it past a helpless william gallas who's standing at the far post.
fuzztremecho
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EMPAT KOSONG
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teh tarik satu-milo dinosaur for every red devils bros
and one for bro fgl..hehehehe
empat kosong
teh tarik satu-milo dinosaur for every red devils bros
and one for bro fgl..hehehehe
DarknessIsComfort
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sub, watching liverpool is like watching the paint dry. loooong looooong 90mins.
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he he... i was hoping there's some magic there but they're like kicking air more than balls...
subversion
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to me it's a classic bully technique... 
fuzztremecho
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remember olunbumi adigun-ex Kedah player vs S'pore
no sense of sportmanship lah like that..
no sense of sportmanship lah like that..
fgl
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wenger's view
Arsene Wenger
'We need to recover quickly before Milan on Wednesday''
Manchester United 4-0 Arsenal
FA Cup Round 5
Old Trafford
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 5.15pm
on a very bad day...
"Positive points are difficult to find because overall we were not up to the level of the game. We know that and the players know that aswell. It is difficult to find positives in our game. The only one I can see is that we do not have anymore injuries than we had at the start of the game."
on the rest of the season...
"The targets that are in front of us are very clear. They are the Premier League and the Champions League. We are not in a position where we have to make a choice. We just have balanced fixtures now. We need to pick ourselves up quickly because we have a massive game on Wednesday night."
on ever having serious thoughts of a treble...
"Not really but you try and make a choice as late as you can. It is a difficult to swallow for the players today because it looked like we did not have the physical resources to come back into the game. We need to recover quickly because we need to be at our best to beat Milan."
on concern over Nani's juggling...
"And rightly so. Nani had a very good game today but it was not needed. It is a little bit [disrespectful]. But it can happen to a young player. I hope he learns from that and does not do it again.."
Thats the reason whyy people hate M U & their fans - they are just so plain disrectfull.
on the red card...
"It looked harsh from outside. The game was over after the sending off and maybe even before because we never looked like we could come back today."
on heavy defeats in the Cups...
"At the moment it is unbelievable. When we lose in the cup we get a hiding. We don't concede in the League but when we do concede we do it well!"
on injury problems...
"Nobody was fit on the bench and all of them were recommended as risky. The most dangerous player was Clichy who I did not touch at all. The others had hamstring problems."
on the League fixture in April...
"You will see us in a different shape when we come back and I hope the pitch will be in different shape aswell."
'We need to recover quickly before Milan on Wednesday''
Manchester United 4-0 Arsenal
FA Cup Round 5
Old Trafford
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 5.15pm
on a very bad day...
"Positive points are difficult to find because overall we were not up to the level of the game. We know that and the players know that aswell. It is difficult to find positives in our game. The only one I can see is that we do not have anymore injuries than we had at the start of the game."
on the rest of the season...
"The targets that are in front of us are very clear. They are the Premier League and the Champions League. We are not in a position where we have to make a choice. We just have balanced fixtures now. We need to pick ourselves up quickly because we have a massive game on Wednesday night."
on ever having serious thoughts of a treble...
"Not really but you try and make a choice as late as you can. It is a difficult to swallow for the players today because it looked like we did not have the physical resources to come back into the game. We need to recover quickly because we need to be at our best to beat Milan."
on concern over Nani's juggling...
"And rightly so. Nani had a very good game today but it was not needed. It is a little bit [disrespectful]. But it can happen to a young player. I hope he learns from that and does not do it again.."
Thats the reason whyy people hate M U & their fans - they are just so plain disrectfull.
on the red card...
"It looked harsh from outside. The game was over after the sending off and maybe even before because we never looked like we could come back today."
on heavy defeats in the Cups...
"At the moment it is unbelievable. When we lose in the cup we get a hiding. We don't concede in the League but when we do concede we do it well!"
on injury problems...
"Nobody was fit on the bench and all of them were recommended as risky. The most dangerous player was Clichy who I did not touch at all. The others had hamstring problems."
on the League fixture in April...
"You will see us in a different shape when we come back and I hope the pitch will be in different shape aswell."
jeepers
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agree with wenger on the nani's showboating.
but whether or not he's young or had a great game, it didnt warrant humiliating fellow professional players. sure it was great fun to watch, but those of you who play soccer would know how much it sucks if someone did the same to you.
i dont understand why we man utd fans are so happy though, sure we won, and won big at that. but it was an understrength arsenal team. i'll celebrate if we trounce arsenal when they've got a fully fit squad.
fergie's tactics were really good. but then again, only had to keep fabregas out of the game and no one else. what if adebayor was fit, rosicky, van persie, clichy and sagna down the flanks. i reckon it'd be a different story altogether.
but whether or not he's young or had a great game, it didnt warrant humiliating fellow professional players. sure it was great fun to watch, but those of you who play soccer would know how much it sucks if someone did the same to you.
i dont understand why we man utd fans are so happy though, sure we won, and won big at that. but it was an understrength arsenal team. i'll celebrate if we trounce arsenal when they've got a fully fit squad.
fergie's tactics were really good. but then again, only had to keep fabregas out of the game and no one else. what if adebayor was fit, rosicky, van persie, clichy and sagna down the flanks. i reckon it'd be a different story altogether.
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