KissMyAxe
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Malaysia wearily faces another lurid sodomy trial
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hehehe good one
Not sure if Anwar really have the numbers he claims he has to take over (since he plays his cards very close to his chest), but I've read the daun teh* in my teh-si, and this is my take:
1. BN will turn the sodomy screws even tighter in an attempt to keep Anwar occupied and off-balance.
2. Anwar will hit the govt on the up-coming Budget both inside and outside Parliament. Of course, inflation, cost of living, price of fuel and various subsidies will figure very large in the debate.
3. UMNO delegates will be using Anwar and Pamatang Pauh to score points in their internal elections (akan datang). Both Badawi and Najip will be in for a rough ride.
4. Singapore may come up again as the convenient bogeyman for some "nationalist" types to deflect internal criticisms and pressure. Pedra Branca is not over yet.
5. We will soon see even more interesting developments in the Nalla RM60m, Perak exco members' corruption, and Mongolian model stories.
With all these people at each others' throats and the BN itself in a state of foment, the political situation will remain unstable for quite some time whether Anwar takes over or not.
*tea leaves lah
1. BN will turn the sodomy screws even tighter in an attempt to keep Anwar occupied and off-balance.
2. Anwar will hit the govt on the up-coming Budget both inside and outside Parliament. Of course, inflation, cost of living, price of fuel and various subsidies will figure very large in the debate.
3. UMNO delegates will be using Anwar and Pamatang Pauh to score points in their internal elections (akan datang). Both Badawi and Najip will be in for a rough ride.
4. Singapore may come up again as the convenient bogeyman for some "nationalist" types to deflect internal criticisms and pressure. Pedra Branca is not over yet.
5. We will soon see even more interesting developments in the Nalla RM60m, Perak exco members' corruption, and Mongolian model stories.
With all these people at each others' throats and the BN itself in a state of foment, the political situation will remain unstable for quite some time whether Anwar takes over or not.
*tea leaves lah
Hope he wins the case in the syariah courts.
Not easy for Saiful to find 4 witnesses, and Anwar says he has 5 witnesses on his side. So, that's why the former had to resort to swearing tactic (which didn't seem to have worked).
After that, Najip followed up by swearing he had nothing to do with the Mongolian model. And then someone else also took an oath as well (it's slip my mind just now what it is about).
So now, people are beginning to realise that this is getting out of hand because this basically subvert the whole investigation/judicial process. UMNO has shot itself in the foot again.
Not easy for Saiful to find 4 witnesses, and Anwar says he has 5 witnesses on his side. So, that's why the former had to resort to swearing tactic (which didn't seem to have worked).
After that, Najip followed up by swearing he had nothing to do with the Mongolian model. And then someone else also took an oath as well (it's slip my mind just now what it is about).
So now, people are beginning to realise that this is getting out of hand because this basically subvert the whole investigation/judicial process. UMNO has shot itself in the foot again.
THOA
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Latest on AP:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080827/twl-malaysia-politics-anwar-vote-pm-3848675.html
You know, I personally detest Anwar Ibrahim for using the Syariah Court as his battleground for his sodomy case. I detest UMNO's idea of swearing upon the Quran to prove their points. And I detest the call for Jihad made by the women of the ruling coalition against Anwar not too long ago.
It is completely stupid. Religion as a political tool? Bullocks!
1) Anwar is contradicting himself when he refuses to swear on the Quran, when he himself is using the Syariah Court to gain advantage in his case.
2) The ruling coalition is trying to run away from reality by jumping into the Quran swearing band wagon; a convenient way appease the majority Malay-Muslim population that there is no deeper scandal involving murder and corruption amidst its pool.
3) They are both making a mockery of the non-Muslim minority with such acts when a few months, even weeks back, they had promised to look more into that portion of the population with promises of equality and democracy.
It is pure elitist snobbery that seems to stay, "You are in a Malay Muslim state. We Malay Muslims can use this status to take advantage of the loopholes in the system to make use of the Syariah ruling whenever we felt that conventional legislative system is does not suit us. We know you can't enjoy that same advantage, neither do you actually believe in our Syariah laws because you are of another belief. So sit back, and watch helplessly in your confusion. We have no time to cater to your opinions."
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080827/twl-malaysia-politics-anwar-vote-pm-3848675.html
You know, I personally detest Anwar Ibrahim for using the Syariah Court as his battleground for his sodomy case. I detest UMNO's idea of swearing upon the Quran to prove their points. And I detest the call for Jihad made by the women of the ruling coalition against Anwar not too long ago.
It is completely stupid. Religion as a political tool? Bullocks!
1) Anwar is contradicting himself when he refuses to swear on the Quran, when he himself is using the Syariah Court to gain advantage in his case.
2) The ruling coalition is trying to run away from reality by jumping into the Quran swearing band wagon; a convenient way appease the majority Malay-Muslim population that there is no deeper scandal involving murder and corruption amidst its pool.
3) They are both making a mockery of the non-Muslim minority with such acts when a few months, even weeks back, they had promised to look more into that portion of the population with promises of equality and democracy.
It is pure elitist snobbery that seems to stay, "You are in a Malay Muslim state. We Malay Muslims can use this status to take advantage of the loopholes in the system to make use of the Syariah ruling whenever we felt that conventional legislative system is does not suit us. We know you can't enjoy that same advantage, neither do you actually believe in our Syariah laws because you are of another belief. So sit back, and watch helplessly in your confusion. We have no time to cater to your opinions."
When BN got crushed in the last election, it means one thing - people were sick and tired of their ways, and have had enough already. But instead of learning their lessons, putting their house back in order, change their attitude, try to serve the people better so as to win their seats back in the next election......the BN (especially UMNO) has got to do all these:
- party infighting, petty squabbling
- searching for someone/something to blame for their election loss
- involve in scandals and more corruption for all to see
- become more extravagant in staff/party members privileges and spending for all to see
- talk more nonsense and shoot their own foot again and again
- resort to dirty tactics to put down the opposition that is so obvious to everyone
- intimidation of key witnesses for the above
- use religion as political tools at will
- desperate but futile attempt to court certain opposition's allegiance like PAS
- alienate the Chinese and Indian minority group even more
- etc, etc.
Nothing ever change. Not now, not in the future.
- party infighting, petty squabbling
- searching for someone/something to blame for their election loss
- involve in scandals and more corruption for all to see
- become more extravagant in staff/party members privileges and spending for all to see
- talk more nonsense and shoot their own foot again and again
- resort to dirty tactics to put down the opposition that is so obvious to everyone
- intimidation of key witnesses for the above
- use religion as political tools at will
- desperate but futile attempt to court certain opposition's allegiance like PAS
- alienate the Chinese and Indian minority group even more
- etc, etc.
Nothing ever change. Not now, not in the future.
obzervr
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I believe Anwar owes his return to parliament tremendously to Civil Society and Advocacy movements in Malaysia.
Anyway, a couple of young Malaysian scholar-activists said at a post seminar teh tarik session last Sat: Behind Anwar, there are two types of supporters; first - those who support the charisma of Anwar Ibrahim as a person and second - those who support the ideas of Anwar Ibrahim.
Revealing some analyses the scholars said that there are those who support the ideas of Anwar Ibrahim (as Anwar himself presented in his many public lectures and written works) are looking at the political developments in Malaysia cautiously. A sudden change of government would weaken the BN tremendously such that the BN would be unable to perform as an effective opposition force to the New Pakatan government thus effectively destroying the ideals of a two-party parliament that has strong check and balances.
Anyway, a couple of young Malaysian scholar-activists said at a post seminar teh tarik session last Sat: Behind Anwar, there are two types of supporters; first - those who support the charisma of Anwar Ibrahim as a person and second - those who support the ideas of Anwar Ibrahim.
Revealing some analyses the scholars said that there are those who support the ideas of Anwar Ibrahim (as Anwar himself presented in his many public lectures and written works) are looking at the political developments in Malaysia cautiously. A sudden change of government would weaken the BN tremendously such that the BN would be unable to perform as an effective opposition force to the New Pakatan government thus effectively destroying the ideals of a two-party parliament that has strong check and balances.
fgl
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Malaysian PM faces calls to quit after Anwar victory
http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/partners/afp/SIG=10n1rur92/*http://www.afp.com/
AFP - Wednesday, August 27 KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - - Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi faced calls to quit from within his ruling party Wednesday after opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim scored a landslide by-election victory.
Anwar won the vote to return to parliament despite an intense campaign mounted by the Barisan Nasional coalition, which he has promised to unseat within a month with the help of defecting lawmakers.
The failure to check Anwar has heaped more pressure on Abdullah, who has fought to hold on to his job since March general elections in which the opposition gained unprecedented ground.
Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah, a senior member of the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) which leads the ruling coalition, called for a new leadership "to unite our people... and forge a clear national direction."
"(Abdullah) does not have the minimal credibility needed to run the country day by day, let alone to take it in the new directions we need to go in a complex world," he said. "This dangerous situation cannot continue."
Razaleigh said the coalition's by-election campaign, which was criticised for its racial overtones and focus on sodomy allegations against Anwar, has "embarrassed and divided the nation with its ugliness."
"It is time to face the music: it is we who have been buried," he said.
Razaleigh plans to challenge Abdullah for the party leadership in December polls, but is likely to fail after the premier silenced calls for his immediate ouster by agreeing to hand over power to his deputy Najib Razak in 2010.
Abdullah's main critic, former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, has also called for the resignation of his successor after relations between the two soured in 2006.
Mahathir's son Mukhriz, another senior UMNO figure who is vying for the top spot in the party's influential youth wing, also called for Abdullah's immediate resignation.
"I think Abdullah should strongly consider for all our sakes, to step down now," he told AFP.
"This is a second time that the Malaysian people have given a clear message, with the first at the general elections. It is a rejection of the present leader and he must leave now."
http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/partners/afp/SIG=10n1rur92/*http://www.afp.com/
AFP - Wednesday, August 27 KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - - Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi faced calls to quit from within his ruling party Wednesday after opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim scored a landslide by-election victory.
Anwar won the vote to return to parliament despite an intense campaign mounted by the Barisan Nasional coalition, which he has promised to unseat within a month with the help of defecting lawmakers.
The failure to check Anwar has heaped more pressure on Abdullah, who has fought to hold on to his job since March general elections in which the opposition gained unprecedented ground.
Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah, a senior member of the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) which leads the ruling coalition, called for a new leadership "to unite our people... and forge a clear national direction."
"(Abdullah) does not have the minimal credibility needed to run the country day by day, let alone to take it in the new directions we need to go in a complex world," he said. "This dangerous situation cannot continue."
Razaleigh said the coalition's by-election campaign, which was criticised for its racial overtones and focus on sodomy allegations against Anwar, has "embarrassed and divided the nation with its ugliness."
"It is time to face the music: it is we who have been buried," he said.
Razaleigh plans to challenge Abdullah for the party leadership in December polls, but is likely to fail after the premier silenced calls for his immediate ouster by agreeing to hand over power to his deputy Najib Razak in 2010.
Abdullah's main critic, former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, has also called for the resignation of his successor after relations between the two soured in 2006.
Mahathir's son Mukhriz, another senior UMNO figure who is vying for the top spot in the party's influential youth wing, also called for Abdullah's immediate resignation.
"I think Abdullah should strongly consider for all our sakes, to step down now," he told AFP.
"This is a second time that the Malaysian people have given a clear message, with the first at the general elections. It is a rejection of the present leader and he must leave now."
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