Life After Lee
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I will be sad but life has to go on. That is what he would want us to do.
Like any great person that came before, he will be remembered.
The Singapore that MM Lee and his team developed is simply magic. Not just because of the success but from what it was built from. Almost nothing.
Singapore will be fine for another 20 - 40 years. After that, it will depend on our citizens.
Like any great person that came before, he will be remembered.
The Singapore that MM Lee and his team developed is simply magic. Not just because of the success but from what it was built from. Almost nothing.
Singapore will be fine for another 20 - 40 years. After that, it will depend on our citizens.
fgl
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friends mentioned that coz the article was written .... he prolly sick ...
like I said donno true or not ... hopefully not ....
rottenramone
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lky doesn't actually want to have his name plastered all over to revere him. it was only when he reluctantly lent his name to the nus school, that he relented after 40 years. it is only recently that remembering post independence leaders became more apparent. our dollar notes was from flower, to bird, to ship before yusof ishak showed up. ntu renamed its comms school to wee kim wee sch of comms.
good thing that he didn't let his ego inflate his public image, or else we'll spend necessary money building his statue instead of spending it unecessarily on rebranding marina bay.
and its not magic that the old guard built up singapore, it was out of desperation which rode on the toil on the backs of our grandfathers. he was a stern leader and a wily politician who managed to fend off his rivals. he's an economic miracle, but at a cost of our political growth, arts and self expression.
Cavett
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Singapore survived even when Albert Winsemius passed on... 
Sadly in this world nobody is indispensable but great men will always be printed in the memory of those who remember.
Though its a cliche but in a country like Singapore, at the end of the day, its the people and their resilience that matters. Always been since the 1500s till the 2000s and beyond... :mrgreen:
Sadly in this world nobody is indispensable but great men will always be printed in the memory of those who remember.
Though its a cliche but in a country like Singapore, at the end of the day, its the people and their resilience that matters. Always been since the 1500s till the 2000s and beyond... :mrgreen:
rottenramone
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but singapore's resilience hasn't been fully tested. lky's passing will be some sort of a litmus test in whether the systems his team put in place will run or not.
i would love to live in thailand btw. but i'll stick to wearing white shirts for now.
i would love to live in thailand btw. but i'll stick to wearing white shirts for now.
Dude, are you serious and or are you kidding me? Thailand is the joke of the year.
MM Lee will pass away and I'm expecting the Lee dynasty to really continue on what he'd first started. At least for the next 30 years. I mean, PM Lee Hsien Long still has many more years on his jobs, and as far as I can see, the current generation of future leaders (in 30 years' time) will still come from PAP.
MM Lee is a genius, but all geniuses come with flaws and the greater the ingenuity, the greater the flaws... He was shrewd, inspiring and had a brilliant vision. He literally transformed Singapore with his own hands and I'm glad we are unlike our neighbouring countries.
However, all these came at the expense of our political development.
So, it will be time for a new chapter soon!
Agreed.
Any man that can bring a nation up from nothing in such a short period of time is to be respected and remembered. I know most of the older generation will definitely treasure his infinite wisdom, and most of the younger generation will get a sense (though to a lesser degree) of his crucial and nation-building contributions. We are the country we are today because of him. There is no denying that however anyone looks at it.
But I guess people, by nature, are very short on memory, especially when it comes to appreciating good things when they're around. So perhaps it won't be long till the new generation will clamour for greater change for our country. I still don't think there will be any great political changes but there will be a shift in mindset as we compete with other countries on a global level. In a way it's good also.
Cavett
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If MM Lee were to be a musician, I will guess he would be Malmsteen...
A talented virtuoso who pioneered a new genre that was to be envied and copied by many. However due to his "no "nonsense" and totalitarian nature, it resulted in an ever changing band line up. :mrgreen:
fgl
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HE WUD BE mORSE
cold_static544
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firstly, we should not over-attribute our successes today to one man. singapore would perhaps be very different today if not for people like S. Rajaratnam and Goh Keng Swee.
and secondly, it'll be good to appreciate the very volatile political situation we had before independence if we are talking about how totalitarian we all are.
the issue about the communists within the PAP, their strong presence and influence with the chinese-speaking. most of us would never know what it is like to have workers on strike, unions at odds with the government or in-fighting within the ruling party.
and secondly, it'll be good to appreciate the very volatile political situation we had before independence if we are talking about how totalitarian we all are.
the issue about the communists within the PAP, their strong presence and influence with the chinese-speaking. most of us would never know what it is like to have workers on strike, unions at odds with the government or in-fighting within the ruling party.
EngelFaeuste
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Lee's totalitarian approach and machiavellian stance receives my total support. Most Singaporeans don't know how to think for themselves and will trust their friends words more than their own careful observation.
If you can't stand the political climate, I believe you probably would have the intelligence and foresight to get yourself well educated enough to leave the country. I'm not contributing to the brain drain, in fact, WHAT BRAIN DRAIN? The Singapore Government does an excellent job of courting foreign professionals.
If you can't stand the political climate, I believe you probably would have the intelligence and foresight to get yourself well educated enough to leave the country. I'm not contributing to the brain drain, in fact, WHAT BRAIN DRAIN? The Singapore Government does an excellent job of courting foreign professionals.
hifi_killer
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FYI, Singapore is no where near totalitarian.
Its not that singaporeans dont know how to think for themselves. Its just that politics are for people who have too much time, and most Singaporeans are busy with everyday life and work. Generally, if we got food to eat, got roof over our heads, and we can play our guitars, we wont really care if the prime minister is getting a $23147646613481237461892 salary or if 10 generations of prime ministers have the same surname.
We are simply too busy playing our guitars or earning money to care about this. We would rather channel our intellectual ability in to something more productive than the local political scene.
It is usually the ones who have too much time who are complaining about the system oh wait in fact they complain about everything under the sky
Its not that singaporeans dont know how to think for themselves. Its just that politics are for people who have too much time, and most Singaporeans are busy with everyday life and work. Generally, if we got food to eat, got roof over our heads, and we can play our guitars, we wont really care if the prime minister is getting a $23147646613481237461892 salary or if 10 generations of prime ministers have the same surname.
We are simply too busy playing our guitars or earning money to care about this. We would rather channel our intellectual ability in to something more productive than the local political scene.
It is usually the ones who have too much time who are complaining about the system oh wait in fact they complain about everything under the sky
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