LaSalle SIA... the sad truth.

knackroller said:
I think sometime last year there was this 3-day workshop for composers for modern music or something. .

This is exactly what I am talking about.
It's a totaly uninspirational place. Most of the lecturers don't seem to be prepared for what they are supposed to teach. Some because they don't care, others maybe because they don't know very much about what they are doing.


my stand is that an art cannot be thought, only the structure in which to study it can be given

this is partialy right. artistic integrity can't be teached. neither creativity can be teached as such. though it can be triggered by being part of a creative environment. a place that inspires you and feed you with creative impulses. this is where LaSalle fails to deliver.
in any artform there is also a big part of craftmanship that needs to be taught. this is where LaSalle fails to deliver.
 
Personally i think that Laselle is a better private school compared to the other around.

My experience in the school have not been good. and to tell you the truth the school is kind of choatic. i was there about a month back. and realized the most of the people there were stark rich or people who have no where else to go after thier Os. Trust me when i say its the same at every private school. however there are a minimal amount of students there who are there to souly pursue art because of passion.

i was able to chat with a few schooling laselle students. and started to see a pattern which these passionate people mainly compromise of the fine arts student, performing arts students and music students.

During my experience in the school, i realized that
most of them come to school like everyday is a fashion parade.
female students wearing 3 inch thick make up EVERY SINGLE DAY to school.
its just bizarre to me and you can occasionally see them flirting with lecturers.

Once i enterd the toilet and i could hear moaning and squeeling sounds coming from a cubical! like as if someone was inside having ... er... sex?
Enviroments a little crazy. Most of the art students i meet seem very stuck up.

i went to have an interview at nafa and it was UNBELIEVEABLE!!!! what sort of school makes you pay 60 bucks for an interview!!! I had a friend CRAZY enough to actually pay this 60 bucks for an interview and guess what when you go for the interview they dun even look at your portfolio. they just would like to see if your able to pay up your school fees.
Laselle on the other hand took the liberty to screwtinize my work. and even offered me to skip foundation and proceed to level 1. If there were really a school out for your money they wouldnt have bothered and still sent you to foundaton. They are a school seriously trying to improve themselves.

i had a chat with one of the staff. he was saying something like the school is trying to weed out the not so good teachers.

besides have you seen the new campus. gawwwd it looks artsy fartsy.
i say give laselle a few more years and it will be the more recognised art is locally,

trust me when i say that Laselle all in all is a better private school compared to the other private schools.
 
EclectronicEscapades said:
serialninja said:
get away with what, exactly?

You are sort of underlining my point here.

that's funny, i wasn't even sure what you were referring to, i'm not sure how i was able to underline your point.

our exchange was essentially analogous to this:
you: "ABC Cartoon really sucks!"
me: "why does it suck?"
you: "exactly."

which is a pretty stupid exchange.

but seeing as you've already explained yourself in a later post, i won't bother asking you again. i just thought it might be prudent to point out that substantiating your opinion on the first post will probably save you the trouble of having to read posts like this in the future.
 
Well, being the only (i think) lasalle student replying, here's some insights to the school...

YES we do have hopeless teachers, none that i shall point out, but sometimes it's just because they're not good teachers, and no matter what IT STILL IS OUR FAULT because the learning process is self-driven - just like in secondary school, we give the excuse that we fail the subject because we have a lousy teacher, but why do some of our classmates ace the subject? because they BOTHER to go home and read up more! and YES we do have awesome lecturers and teachers that inspire and drive us, names you may know like Joshua Wan (bassist), Derek Tan (composer/guitarist), Rick Smith (guitarist at harry's bar), lots more...

NO music students do not put on 3 inch make up, u've been looking at the design students. NO music students do not dress up, most of us guys show up in 3/4s and slippers and a T shirt or a polo T. NO i've even stayed over in school or stayed till late and i haven't heard any yelping noises that may sound like some hormone-enraged teens having sex, tho u never know.

THE SCHOOL is not made up of rich bums, a rough estimate of the student's famillies incomes would be
20% above average, 60% well to do, 20% below average
Prove it? we have awesome talented guitarists using modified TGMs and Washburn guitars that cost no more than 300 bucks.

Lasalle SIA isnt exactly a private school. it has just been upgraded to a real "school" (our head of department told u something, i didnt really catch much but the main point was that "we're expanding to become bigger and better") and it's actually still under the government or something (tuition grants and deferment apply as per normal), it's not entirely a private school.
oh and yes i can't wait for the new campus. MORE jamming rooms. BETTER recording studios. MORE computers. WIRELESS hub. wheee!
 
that cprisegg or something r u chris or something?

u should at least say the music faculty had more fashion sense than the design students. :D u spoilt our image!
 
It was organised by La Salle themselves, so I thought it would be at least decent. I was rather appalled that the teachers didn't seem to have a clue about the "workshop" they were supposed to have organised.





Cheez said:
knackroller said:
I think sometime last year there was this 3-day workshop for composers for modern music or something. I remembered I signed up (luckily for one day only) and when I turned up they prompty pocketed my money.

Who organized the workshop?
 
i went to the workshop last year and i learnt something from it. i'm a student there as well. i learnt more about songwriting and composition from the guest lecturers. u need to have an open mind whenever you go to a workshop cuz u'll never know wad you'll learn there.

oh, like crispyegg mentioned, we do hav awesome guitarists on their TGM and Washburns.
 
ahhh thx for adding dude :D

i've got stupid NS breaking up my studies so i cant really confirm which year i'm graduating...

stillborn / zenguan88 pm me if u're in lasalle or u think u know me or something... lol asking all the clues here n there, so... weird...
 
Well speaking from experience, i know some that goes there because it is "more" established, i know of this girl in foundation year, who just finish her 'A' level and got accepted to a University, but instead she came to Lasalle through foundation and to Fashion management, and believe me her works are so professional that it is salable in the market. There is also this one guy whom was in product design in TP and left for lasalle after just one year, and he told me the lecturers there in TP are stucked up and rejected every possible ideas he had and even condemn his drawings as being called not up to standard, but from what i see it is pretty good in terms of technical drawing even some lecturers in lasalle there praise him for his professionalism, and some of this lecturers are those that knows the market out there. And he even told me when he came to his interview for lasalle, he showed them his works and all, and they were impressed and even offered him to skip foundation and straight into level 1, but being the hardworking type he decided to not skip foundation and he is now pursuing something he is enjoying.
It is a stereotype to say that art students party all the time and work less, just take a look, yes we do party but not to a certain level where we come to school drunk and believe me when we hand in our works for submission we made sure it is presentable and up to the standard to be considered as professional. There are also those who sacrifice their weekends to come back to school to finish their works and some i know stayed till late at night even though their journey home would take them at least 2 hours to reach.
And if you happen to look at art central's nine lives, most of the actors and actress are actually students from the school. The bartender girl who was one of the main character is a student there.
And recently i attended a jazz workshop there during the mosaic month, and though it wasnt exactly the lecturers who were conducting it, it is still noted that lasalle is able to bring in such renowned and notable players to conduct its workshop, and it was free and i am not even a music student, and the players, most of the time, were really making the workshop interactive, in terms of answering questions.
And phoneix, what course were you in? Because most students i know there drop out during their foundation year, rather than their specialization years, because it would have been such a waste and the fact that during foundation years you learned all the basics of art, and i certaintly learned alot, though it is quite stressful. I even picked up new skills during that time which it is very useful when you go on to the working world, in terms of technical and design elements and problem solving skills.
 
is there such a word? lol... suggestion: marketable =)

well yeah i totally agree with you dude, we party hard and we work hard too... which faculty/course/year you in?

to sum it all up, lasalle is what you may call REALISTIC. i say that in the sense of comparison with similar levels of study:
JC - theory
Poly - theory+project work
Lasalle - project work and a basic theory & APPLICATION of theory
 
I studied 4 years in Lasalle. 3 years standard Diploma and 1 year for an accelerated Bachelors in Multimedia. I now do music full-time.

From my personal experience: Lasalle is - a very open, interactive, conducive, adoptive and of course creative institution. It is really good for people with - an open mind, a carefree attitude, a need to explore and to expand their horizons. Having said that, it is not really for people who want to be very specialized in a specific industry, already have a clear idea of what they want to do for a living outside of 'creative' fields, and especially people who think they are already accomplished in their goals.

I said not really only because most people want to learn as many tricks of the trade as quickly as possible. The way i see it, Lasalle aims or aimed (I graduated June 2005) to cultivate minds for open-ended thinking rather than to crash-course their students into working environments. Personally I hope things haven't changed :)

Of course, I haven't had the pleasure of developing myself at TP (chick fest?!), NP (power courses), SMU (nose bleed chicks + gigs), or any other tertiary institutions worth mentioning. But it seems to me that half the people who dive into places unknown turn out disgruntled. :lol: Peace.
 
wha, i enter the school you leave... =(( wish u were still there sia. can learn bass from you... lol... :P

well semester 2 just ended @ lasalle... and i'm still happy with the course! actually i hope they do give us more next year (which the seniors claim they will)
 
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