just starting out on the MUSE-ic!

[shokakukai]

fyan - whoaa thats quite an expensive set up hahahaha

mcuosver -

low action means low string height. the lower the action, the easier it is to press on the strings. and yeah, the more comfortable and easier it is to play.

no worries bro on the quality of the rally les paul. its a great guitar for its price. i've tried it, recommended it to a friend and he bought it the next day after trying it. HAHA.

dont worry about destroying your guitar with just a pick. it will only at most leave very small scratches.

haha zoom and line 6 are available at city music, which is at peace centre.
the nux 07 multifx looks quite interesting, but i recommend you go for a zoom g2.1u for a start as it is simple and wont confuse you as much.

amps... im not too sure about that.. but..
the sound drive sg-10, as what eugenesmasher suggested, is quite a good amp for its price. but for me, i prefer an orange crush 15 for its 8" speaker. and i also like its built in od. haha im currently using the orange amp.

 

[mcuosver]

QUOTE=shokakukai;982052]fyan - whoaa thats quite an expensive set up hahahaha

mcuosver -

low action means low string height. the lower the action, the easier it is to press on the strings. and yeah, the more comfortable and easier it is to play.

no worries bro on the quality of the rally les paul. its a great guitar for its price. i've tried it, recommended it to a friend and he bought it the next day after trying it. HAHA.

dont worry about destroying your guitar with just a pick. it will only at most leave very small scratches.

haha zoom and line 6 are available at city music, which is at peace centre.
the nux 07 multifx looks quite interesting, but i recommend you go for a zoom g2.1u for a start as it is simple and wont confuse you as much.

amps... im not too sure about that.. but..
the sound drive sg-10, as what eugenesmasher suggested, is quite a good amp for its price. but for me, i prefer an orange crush 15 for its 8" speaker. and i also like its built in od. haha im currently using the orange amp.[/QUOTE]


GREAT!i'm definitely getting a rally lp then!looks like rally's really got everyone on here giving the thumbs up,eh?:-D
but,will scratches on side of the guitar(the pickguard area) affect anything?i'm pretty sure not technical-wise,but still worried about how it will look.
and it also looks like the zoom g2.1u's the effects for me.seems to be highly recommended among you guys for the muse-y sound.and i've also found that the unit has been used to cover alot of muse songs on youtube,too!
for amps,i'm really still trying to stick to the roland cube series,because of the power squeezer feature.like i said,i want to be able to sustain the tone of my sound even at low volumes(which i'll be playing on,whenever i'm practising inside my bedroom),but then still have enough power for live gigs.so,according to roland,they can fix this with the power squeezer feature on the cube series.unless,i can find another amp that is able to sustain the tone even at low volumes,i'm prolly really keen on the rolands,but go ahead and advice me otherwise!i wanna hear what you guys got to say too.:-D

PS:shit!i'm starting to get the GAS thing you guys were talking about...now i'm suddenly thinking of teles(cos' the mansons matt uses are designed according to teles).haha,lucky no cheap tele brand around.

 

[theunknown]

yeah my recommendation:

guitar - rally LP
effects - korg ax3000g
amp - roland cube/vox pathfinder 15r

Rally LP because it's a value for money les paul copy with good QC and buying from Standard Value, i'm sure the guitars are well set up before being sold.

Korg Ax3000g because it had many effects stored inside which u can play with. The expression can be used for many things. The effects to me are of good sounding in relation to the price. Just decent drives though. I've owned one.

Roland Cube because it sounds good clean and with distortion. Power squeezer is useful too. Vox pathfinder is a cheaper alternative with good cleans for your base tone. I've own one.

 

[hutkahn]

GREAT!i'm definitely getting a rally lp then!looks like rally's really got everyone on here giving the thumbs up,eh?:-D
but,will scratches on side of the guitar(the pickguard area) affect anything?i'm pretty sure not technical-wise,but still worried about how it will look.

Dont worry, unless you are a crazy maniac strummer, it shouldn't even leave many scratches on the body in the first place. From usage, my pick barely touches the pickguard! The height difference from the strings to the body is big enough to avoid scratches if you're careful, in my opinion.. Crazy stage antics, now that's a different issue haha

 

[mcuosver]

Dont worry, unless you are a crazy maniac strummer, it shouldn't even leave many scratches on the body in the first place. From usage, my pick barely touches the pickguard! The height difference from the strings to the body is big enough to avoid scratches if you're careful, in my opinion.. Crazy stage antics, now that's a different issue haha

lol,great.now i can sleep peacefully,after what you and shokakukai have assured me about-my inability to tear my guitar into pieces with my handy,dandy pick!:mrgreen:

edit:GAS under control.decided that rally lp will do!

 

[hutkahn]

That also depends on the settings you play with, how you handle the guitar, etc. My advice is to try both with the songs you would be playing, and see which conveys a better feel to yourself!

 

[fyan]

lol,great.now i can sleep peacefully,after what you and shokakukai have assured me about-my inability to tear my guitar into pieces with my handy,dandy pick!:mrgreen:

oh yeah,also forgot to ask you guys...if i happen to be able to get both the smash s2 and rally lp(tyco tyco score well for O levels = reward!),which one would be better when i wanna play my MUSE songs???cos' if i'm not wrong both are humbuckers-equipped.but then i think i look better with the strat if i'm playing a live gig lol.but still,i won't compromise the quality of my sound!

hey man. i tried a strat at guitar connection. boy. it blew me off. the single coils sound very humbucker-ish. cant rmbr the brand of it though. its 400 bucks MIJ(made in japan). i tried it out and my balls almost flew. ahahha. though its a strat but the harmonics were rich. esp coz you're playing muse. matt likes to play around with harmonics live. maybe you can check it out. its in sunburst. abt effects...welll..idk. i used multi effects once. but well didnt really liked it. the dist modules in there to me were a lil too thin and 'digital'. everybody got diff taste! but its alrite. its just the start. you'll progress and GAS your way thru ur dream board and sound. haahah

 

[fyan]

fyan - whoaa thats quite an expensive set up hahahaha

mcuosver -

low action means low string height. the lower the action, the easier it is to press on the strings. and yeah, the more comfortable and easier it is to play.

no worries bro on the quality of the rally les paul. its a great guitar for its price. i've tried it, recommended it to a friend and he bought it the next day after trying it. HAHA.

dont worry about destroying your guitar with just a pick. it will only at most leave very small scratches.

haha zoom and line 6 are available at city music, which is at peace centre.
the nux 07 multifx looks quite interesting, but i recommend you go for a zoom g2.1u for a start as it is simple and wont confuse you as much.

amps... im not too sure about that.. but..
the sound drive sg-10, as what eugenesmasher suggested, is quite a good amp for its price. but for me, i prefer an orange crush 15 for its 8" speaker. and i also like its built in od. haha im currently using the orange amp.

hey bro. thanks! haha. took me darn long to get them. but now GAS-ing for a ehx HOG. thanks to muse, im addicted to synths. ahahs.

 

[mcuosver]

hey bro. thanks! haha. took me darn long to get them. but now GAS-ing for a ehx HOG. thanks to muse, im addicted to synths. ahahs.

lol.yeah,i just realized i'm more or less going to GAS myself these few years if i want to be playing muse sounds.i might end up even learning the piano,like matt,wtf -.-!

 

[hutkahn]

Take it slow, man.. haha no need to reproduce every single note he plays, imo..some improvisation makes it more 'you' haha

 

[mcuosver]

lol.just realized i only know where to get the lp -> standard value.
anyone got any idea where to get an affordably priced roland 30x and the zoom g2.1u effects??(i'm sure as hell not going to go to swee lee after looking at the diff in cost between the epi lp standard that it sells in comparison to sv -_-)

 

[bReakOuT!]

You're right...Swee Lee offers the most ridiculous prices you will see on most brands that they ship in.

Well,at least you know where to spend extra cash whenever you have some.

 

[hutkahn]

Unfortunately, the roland cube is only carried by sweelee, I believe.. In that case maybe you can consider the sound drive amp mentioned as well? Since it is available at SV as well so u can check it out there.. For the zoom multi-fx, I believe citymusic carries them as well, along with korg and line6 I believe so u can go down and evaluate which is better for u! (and also ask for a wider range of opinions)

 

[Rendezvous]

Unfortunately, the roland cube is only carried by sweelee

heehee sorry to barge in.i dont have a 30x but im letting go of my cube15x for 150.Mint comes with box ;]

 

[mcuosver]

Unfortunately, the roland cube is only carried by sweelee, I believe.. In that case maybe you can consider the sound drive amp mentioned as well? Since it is available at SV as well so u can check it out there.. For the zoom multi-fx, I believe citymusic carries them as well, along with korg and line6 I believe so u can go down and evaluate which is better for u! (and also ask for a wider range of opinions)

you see,i'm trying to get a roland as much as possible because of the power squeezer feature.with the power squeezer,i'll be able to retain the same sound/tone i have on higher volume even when i'm playing at lower levels(especially when i'm trying to practise in my bedroom,which is saying,most of the times).
i don't know if other amps can do this as well,cos' i've read reviews of amps and found that when you play your amps at a lower level,they tend to lose the clarity or tone that you have at a higher volume.according the roland,the power squeezer solves this,supposedly "squeezing" your sound such that it still retains it's tone at lower volumes.

 

[hutkahn]

That may indeed be a handy feature but the thing is, for bedroom practice usually going up to 4 or 5 is ok. What may sound loud to you may not be so! I once tried doing this - amp volume at 4.5, with distortion and OD boosting it even more, with doors and windows close (aircon comfort heh) and my sister could barely hear anything outside the door..

Given that you would want to gig with it, blasting 10 from it is not a feasible option most of the time since for smaller amps like these, you lose sound quality when you crank it up as well. Chances are you'd then mic the amp instead, enabling you to play at the same level or just slightly higher and having the PA crank the rest up.

IMO the power squeezer might be more useful for late-night practices (come on, sleeping is much better) but in general, I think the other amps would be ok!

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

reality check:

ur tone will be coming mostly from ur g2.1u with these patches:
http://www.haax.se/manualsite/index.php?unit=G2&sort=artist&page=17

not so much from ur amp. ur amp, whatever it may be, will most probably be on the cleanest and most neutral settings when u get ur muse sound through ur multi effects unit. this kinda setup would allow u to get consistent tones when u play on different amps. if ur tone is amp dependant, then u'll have to make an effort that u use ur amp on what ever occasions u are playing for, be it a jamming session or a gig, which is quite hard to commit to unless u dun mind lugging ur combo amp around.

nevertheless, the roland cube is a very good home practise and small gig amp. if it is within ur budget, get it.

 

[fyan]

lol.yeah,i just realized i'm more or less going to GAS myself these few years if i want to be playing muse sounds.i might end up even learning the piano,like matt,wtf -.-!

hahas. relax. got time. ahahs. yeah. i'm in the process of getting back to piano. hahas xD slowly but surely. ahahha

 

[mcuosver]

reality check:

ur tone will be coming mostly from ur g2.1u with these patches:
http://www.haax.se/manualsite/index.php?unit=G2&sort=artist&page=17

not so much from ur amp. ur amp, whatever it may be, will most probably be on the cleanest and most neutral settings when u get ur muse sound through ur multi effects unit. this kinda setup would allow u to get consistent tones when u play on different amps. if ur tone is amp dependant, then u'll have to make an effort that u use ur amp on what ever occasions u are playing for, be it a jamming session or a gig, which is quite hard to commit to unless u dun mind lugging ur combo amp around.

nevertheless, the roland cube is a very good home practise and small gig amp. if it is within ur budget, get it.

lol actually,i don't know how to describe it so i just say tone!
maybe this page will help you all understand better what i'm trying to explain about the power squeezer:
http://www.roland.com/products/en/CUBE-15X/index.html

now,thinking about it,i'm actually not really sure if i want to go for a 30X,given that i'm mostly going to use it for home practise and only sometimes,live gigs(and even then you guys have suggested that mic-ing the amp up would be the more ideal thing to do.)can someone actually explain to me what's the diff between the 'W's in 15w,20w and 30w?cos' i'm thinking it's something to do with the amp's ability to go louder.
and right now,i think the 15X will do just fine for me.but can you guys help me take a look at the 20X and 30X as well and see if i'm really missing out on anything if i do get the 15w?cos the features that the 20w and 30w offer don't seem to be really neccessary for me.(the only thing i'm really after is the power squeezer sustain!)


Roland Cube 20X

http://www.roland.com/products/en/CUBE-20X/index.html

Roland Cube 30X

http://www.roland.com/products/en/CUBE-30X/index.html

on a side note,i keep forgetting to ask:
i have sweaty palms,really quite wet...is it going to affect my guitar playing?i know there's this certain line of strings manufactured for cases like mine,where the string is quite sweat resistant,i think i'm going to have to go for that.what else do i need to look out for??i'm quite sure i can still touch my fretboard!?
edit:haha found the string i was talking abt,elixir nanoweb!
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Elixir-Nanoweb-Electric-Light-Strings?sku=101536
anyone noe where got sell?

 

[mcuosver]

just realized that there isn't much difference between the rally gl-300 and gl-400 series except for the hardware.
GL-300
http://standardvalue.com.sg/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=488
GL-400
http://standardvalue.com.sg/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=486

am i right?if so,i might intend to get myself a GL-300 instead of the 400 i was eyeing...(thought there was something special).