Its amazing the assumptions that can arise for hearsay and speculation.
I tried googling/searching any forum articles and posts in regards to supposedly "so so" Tylers and all I could find was that people were worried that Jim would stop making guitars, nothing was mentioned on the quality, fit and finish during that period.
If there is any that I overlooked, I would love to see it.
The problems with CBS strats is that it is an issue known worldwide and anybody find it strange that there is once again no mention of the mythical 07 "so so" Tylers. If there are, might they be only coming to Singapore?
We could also use Jim's sickness analogy to say that since Leo Fender is dead, all strats made after his death is "so so"
I corresponded extensively with "Jim's fren", reputable Tyler dealers and Tyler themselves and the "so so" IW was brought to him again to take a look before coming to me and there was nothing mention on the apparent decine in 07 Tylers.
I did not buy the IW because the of its collectability but because it was going for a reasonable price, something that is sadly not available in SG.
I don't mind people taking a knock at my guitar and but to drag Jim's sickness and using it as a blanket assumption to say as guitars made during that time is "so so" is certainly not appreciated and I don't think Jim would appreciate it.
I'm not too familiar with the models but one of them is a burning water 2k and the other is an ice water. I think they are studio models. they look really nice together. head on down and have a look and you'd know what I mean.
Dorngo, I'm not sure if Trismeplz is here in SG now or not, but that Ice Water at Ebenex is the same guitar that he had. IW Prototype #1. Have you tried it acoustically? If you only tried it plugged, maybe the one find quite off is the pickups set. IIRC, those are Seymour Duncans Trembucker and Dimarzio Virtual Vintage neck and mid. I find that those pickups tend to sound on the hi-fi sound. But the guitar itself is good as least for me. People sell things for different reasons, different circumstances. No Tyler, or any guitar for that matter, is impervious to being sold specially if there are more pressing matters in life that needs to be addressed.
As for the other two, I'm glad to have tried them as they're just as resonant and fat-sounding as the current Tylers now even with the old hardware. I think that experience somehow negates the what-Tyler-was-made-when thing that some have speculated and is a reflection of the signature Tyler sound(thick yet articulate) that they manage to preserve even if it's not Jim doing 100% of the work nowadays.
I didn't say feel. I said resonant and fat-sounding. They will obviously feel a bit different because the Wilkinson bridge has more parts and more clunky. But that Tyler sound is still there. I can't really put words into it since it's quite subjective, it's one of those things that people just have to try in actual to know it.
It's prototype #1. There's a silver marker indication and I think there's also Jim's signature at the back of the headstock. I didn't pick it up again when I went to Ebenex as I'm more curious about the other two.
My BW is still doing great. I had it set-up by Malcolm Tan last December and it's really even better than the first time I got it. The action now is lower than what Wildwood set. I didn't opt for the "lowest string height as much as possible"(Malcolm can set the low E string to as low as 1.2mm, I went for 1.5mm) as I also want to play some slide guitar on it. My guitars are setup in such a way that they'll be comfortable with fretted notes and a fat glass slide.