James Tyler guitars

You're welcome Duality. Congrats on the new guitar! Arctic Mint is one of the best shmears(another fave of mine is the Hazmat) out there.
 
Its amazing the assumptions that can arise for hearsay and speculation.
I tried googling/searching any forum articles and posts in regards to supposedly "so so" Tylers and all I could find was that people were worried that Jim would stop making guitars, nothing was mentioned on the quality, fit and finish during that period.
If there is any that I overlooked, I would love to see it.
The problems with CBS strats is that it is an issue known worldwide and anybody find it strange that there is once again no mention of the mythical 07 "so so" Tylers. If there are, might they be only coming to Singapore?
We could also use Jim's sickness analogy to say that since Leo Fender is dead, all strats made after his death is "so so"
I corresponded extensively with "Jim's fren", reputable Tyler dealers and Tyler themselves and the "so so" IW was brought to him again to take a look before coming to me and there was nothing mention on the apparent decine in 07 Tylers.
I did not buy the IW because the of its collectability but because it was going for a reasonable price, something that is sadly not available in SG.
I don't mind people taking a knock at my guitar and but to drag Jim's sickness and using it as a blanket assumption to say as guitars made during that time is "so so" is certainly not appreciated and I don't think Jim would appreciate it.

so trismeplz, hows ur tyler prototype no. 2 coming along? any sound clips of your beautiful baby for us?
 
o.0? im surprised people would want to sell their tylers. haha. mine is a stayer, all others can go, one of the best tylers ive played. well, actually, i find the shmear overpowering to my liking... i prefer a good old classic. one colour, a matching HS to go with it. or maybe the tobacco one. even though the shmears are what set tylers apart, i cant seem to get myself to like the shmears... haha... what bout u relinquish? what are the other 2 tylers at ebenex?
 
I'm not too familiar with the models but one of them is a burning water 2k and the other is an ice water. I think they are studio models. they look really nice together. head on down and have a look and you'd know what I mean.
 
I'm not too familiar with the models but one of them is a burning water 2k and the other is an ice water. I think they are studio models. they look really nice together. head on down and have a look and you'd know what I mean.

yeah, i just saw it on ebenex fb. the ice water has been there for quite sometime! surprised that no one pulled the trigger. as for the hazmat shmear and the burning water, they are good buys, i predict that it will be snapped up in no time. 2001/02 tylers are good. the hazmat look like a studio elite. have u tried the ice water? like it? haha...
 
The Ice Water is not for sale that's why. At least, that's what I was told. The other two pieces were not setup well for me so I couldn't judge much. But the Ice Water piece was indeed nice.
 
really? interesting... i tried it when it was at blackwood... through a fender amp. i didnt like it... sounds dead to me... but im not sure if that is the same piece from blackwood, i guess its the same... as far as i know, there is only 3 Ice water in sg, one in ebenex, one with a guy in soft, and another is the prototype that trimeplz has. maybe its just me? compared to the other tylers that i played, that sounded abit off... and yeah, i tried some Brazilian rose wood ones as well...
 
I tried through the Matchless. Didn't pay notice to which was it. I thought the Ice Water sounded pretty fine in terms of articulation in notes. It has nice acoustic resonance too. It was also definitely setup better than the other two pieces. But here's the thing, I'm not a Tyler person so can't take my judgement on these entirely. I've tried a few Tylers and they just don't click with me. Different preference I guess.
 
Dorngo, I'm not sure if Trismeplz is here in SG now or not, but that Ice Water at Ebenex is the same guitar that he had. IW Prototype #1. Have you tried it acoustically? If you only tried it plugged, maybe the one find quite off is the pickups set. IIRC, those are Seymour Duncans Trembucker and Dimarzio Virtual Vintage neck and mid. I find that those pickups tend to sound on the hi-fi sound. But the guitar itself is good as least for me. People sell things for different reasons, different circumstances. No Tyler, or any guitar for that matter, is impervious to being sold specially if there are more pressing matters in life that needs to be addressed.

As for the other two, I'm glad to have tried them as they're just as resonant and fat-sounding as the current Tylers now even with the old hardware. I think that experience somehow negates the what-Tyler-was-made-when thing that some have speculated and is a reflection of the signature Tyler sound(thick yet articulate) that they manage to preserve even if it's not Jim doing 100% of the work nowadays.
 
Dorngo, I'm not sure if Trismeplz is here in SG now or not, but that Ice Water at Ebenex is the same guitar that he had. IW Prototype #1. Have you tried it acoustically? If you only tried it plugged, maybe the one find quite off is the pickups set. IIRC, those are Seymour Duncans Trembucker and Dimarzio Virtual Vintage neck and mid. I find that those pickups tend to sound on the hi-fi sound. But the guitar itself is good as least for me. People sell things for different reasons, different circumstances. No Tyler, or any guitar for that matter, is impervious to being sold specially if there are more pressing matters in life that needs to be addressed.

As for the other two, I'm glad to have tried them as they're just as resonant and fat-sounding as the current Tylers now even with the old hardware. I think that experience somehow negates the what-Tyler-was-made-when thing that some have speculated and is a reflection of the signature Tyler sound(thick yet articulate) that they manage to preserve even if it's not Jim doing 100% of the work nowadays.

Edgie: I thought his was no.2? And yes, I've tried it acoustically, and plugged. The thing which doesn't appeal to me is the feel, the vibe and the way it 'sings' . As what I said, im just stating my own opinion. Really? They feel the same? Well I guess it's just for you. From my experiences, nope. Slight differences to me is afterall. To me, the feel is different. So how's ur bw?
 
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I didn't say feel. I said resonant and fat-sounding. They will obviously feel a bit different because the Wilkinson bridge has more parts and more clunky. But that Tyler sound is still there. I can't really put words into it since it's quite subjective, it's one of those things that people just have to try in actual to know it.

It's prototype #1. There's a silver marker indication and I think there's also Jim's signature at the back of the headstock. I didn't pick it up again when I went to Ebenex as I'm more curious about the other two.

My BW is still doing great. I had it set-up by Malcolm Tan last December and it's really even better than the first time I got it. The action now is lower than what Wildwood set. I didn't opt for the "lowest string height as much as possible"(Malcolm can set the low E string to as low as 1.2mm, I went for 1.5mm) as I also want to play some slide guitar on it. My guitars are setup in such a way that they'll be comfortable with fretted notes and a fat glass slide.
 
I didn't say feel. I said resonant and fat-sounding. They will obviously feel a bit different because the Wilkinson bridge has more parts and more clunky. But that Tyler sound is still there. I can't really put words into it since it's quite subjective, it's one of those things that people just have to try in actual to know it.

It's prototype #1. There's a silver marker indication and I think there's also Jim's signature at the back of the headstock. I didn't pick it up again when I went to Ebenex as I'm more curious about the other two.

My BW is still doing great. I had it set-up by Malcolm Tan last December and it's really even better than the first time I got it. The action now is lower than what Wildwood set. I didn't opt for the "lowest string height as much as possible"(Malcolm can set the low E string to as low as 1.2mm, I went for 1.5mm) as I also want to play some slide guitar on it. My guitars are setup in such a way that they'll be comfortable with fretted notes and a fat glass slide.

It's a whole package thing. The feel and sound all contribute to it being a good Tyler. Is the tri's iw the one on ebenex fb?? No right? How much is it going for? Post some clips of ur be... Thanks
 
The one at the Ebenex fb and shop, and Trismeplz's IW is just that same guitar. You can also look on the shmear pattern for an exact match if in doubt. Remember, no two shmears are alike. Besides, it's really quite improbable that both the IW prototypes will be here in Singapore at the same time. That'll really be a fluke if it happens.

For those who may not have noticed, the prototypes have darker blues than the usual IW and there were only 2 ever made.

For clips, I will try to get some up IF I'll have time over the weekend. I got a clip with my band but I messed up the first guitar solo part and I don't think it represented the guitar well as I dialed it way too middy to fit the song. I can't even remember if I've already deleted the file. : )
 
I think guitars are really subjective, one's best feel guitar might be "bleh" to another. I had a buddy's Tyler with me with a long time and I never clicked with it, while it has the wonderful neck carve, just didnt click with the overall feel and tone. I pulled the trigger on my SE HD and it feels fantastic and the 5500s delivered what I wanted in my mind, a fuller sound vs my vintage sound John Cruz Strat. Had also had the honour of playing Edgie adn Trismeplz' Tylers when we had our little GAS-fest and both were really great examples of Tylers! Not sure if was the updated hardware etc :) That's the beauty of GAS :)
 
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